I am still using 8.2 and waiting for an update to arrive by snail 
mail.  I still haven't got a modem that will work in Linux.  Your 
other suggestions sound promising.  I will be trying them when I wake 
up:>)  Including the ones in the original post.

On 21 Dec 2005 at 21:38, RickSisler wrote:

> jim allAn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [snip]
> > > check to see if the files exist here:
> > > $> whereis vimtutor
> > > vimtutor: /usr/bin/vimtutor /usr/local/bin/vimtutor
> >    I would love to check, but how do I get to $> to enter vimtutor 
> > and  $> rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/bin/vimtutor
> Sorry Jim, that was from my prompt in a terminal to show you how it
> could be done using the bash shell and commands to find if its
> installed.
> 
> Actually, the vimtutor is a shell script stored in the /usr/bin
> directory and can only be accessed from a terminal (konsole, xterm)
> Can you use Konqueror to traverse to /usr/bin and see if
> /usr/bin/vimtutor is there ? 
> 
>   if not, have you learned how to install software packages
> using the Mandriva Control Center ? the twiki has some good links
> for getting started authored by many readers of these lists.
> http://mandriva.vmlinuz.ca/index.php/Main_Page 
> Since your on dial-up, what version of Mandriva are you
> using ?
> 
> [snip]
> > > vim-common-6.4-1.1.20060mdk
> > > Then make sure you have the vim-common package installed.
> > > Also here's some links for online tutorials:
> >   This did lead to a sample of what the tutor looks like. 
> > http://www.truth.sk/vim/vimbook-OPL.pdf
> > I am sure that is what I want to see, but why can't I?  Does  
> > vimtutor have to be entered at a bash$ prompt?  How do I get there?
> try this one also, a quick reference:
> http://vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/TutorialCommands
> 
> >    I am so frustrated at this point, that I feel like scrapping the 
> > whole thing.  Every thing was going so good until I hit this road 
> > block. 
> >    Time to go to bed and hope tommorrow brings a solution.
> 
> I started with 9.2 and hosed my PC for 2+ weeks and almost did give
> up, but kept reading, re-installing, more reading ... and
> I would encourage you not to give up Jim, it may be a steep learning
> curve but well worth the trip ;)
> -- 
> RickS
> "Just drive down that road, until you get blown up" -
> General George Patton, about reconnaissance troops
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