James Ewen wrote:
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Bob Maloney <[email protected]> wrote:
I couldn't figure out how to automatically convert the GPX trace.
Go back and read the long description I gave in the last email. Have
the editing window open and the email open as well, so you can follow
along. If you are editing with save, you can play without changing the
real database. Just click the box that says Convert GPS Tracks to ways
when you enter the edit mode.
Where is the box that says "Convert GPS tracks to ways" ? I cannot find
it on the EDIT screen.
A question concerning standards for naming a road, hiking path, etc. The
Nawahunta Fire Road is a woods road probably built in the 1930's.
Is it called Nawahunta Fire Road? Then that's what it should be named
on the map.
You can get into details about the type of track by adding another tag:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Tracktype
This is probably a tracktype:grade5
It is only
open to park vehicles for emergencies.
Now you're talking about permitted uses. That's different than the name.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Restrictions
Also, is there a gate across the road to restrict vehicular traffic?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Barrier
This road is closed to everyone but the park
employees. However, it is tagged as a "residential road" and to me it shows
on the map as a road everyone can ride on. I believe that the data for it
was probably automatically downloaded from the US CENSUS TIGER fileswhich
are notoriously inaccurate. I believe the same taf should apply to the Fire
Road and Baileytown Road. What should it be? I can change the Fire Road, who
can/should change Baileytown and many other park roads?
Well, the OSM map belongs to all of us. It is a crowd sourced project.
Those Tiger roads were input by an automated import. If you look at a
Tiger road, it probably has a reviewed:no tag on it. That means that
someone needs to look at the real world, and see if the road exists,
and is accurate.
>From where I sit, I think this way is not real.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/20709937
It runs perfectly straight over a mountain, and across a stream. It
doesn't show up in the satellite photo either, but a photo can be
older than a newly created road. If you have more accurate information
than is in the OSM database, make the changes. You just want to make
sure that your information is accurate, and not copied from a
restricted source.
It would be bad form to go deleting a road because you don't remember
it being there, and then later driving along, and finding that you
deleted a road that was just built last month.
Those roads around Bailey Town do exist. I cannot be sure that they are
correctly placed on the OSM. I may have dated GPX files for parts of
them and will check out their accuracy. The roads predate the YAHOO map,
They date back to the 19th century. However, they have not been active
for about 80 years. Tree cover may hide them on the Yahoo map.
If you KNOW things are wrong, fix them. I drew Queensboro Lake, but if
you think my outline is wrong, you're free to fix it.
I will try and determine a standard for tagging all the Park roads
whether they predate the park or were built by the park. I will pass the
standard. I alsu need a standard for hiking trails do divide them
between named, blazed trails and unnamed, unblazed but walkableetrails.
I will look at MAP features and try to come up with something.
The Appalachian Trail and the Long Path (blazed hiking trail from NYC
to almost the Canadian border) pass through the park. Parts of them
are shown on the map. I have time stamped GPX files of some parts that
are not shown in OSM. I will add and connect to what is there if possible.
One last thing, I see that the Nawahunta Fire Road does not show all the
way to Route 6 in higher zoom levels. In lower zoom levels, it goes all
the way. I believe the reason for that is that in the northern most part
the points for the way are more sparsely spaced than in the southern
part. How do I add points between others in the way/
Thanks again,
Bob
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