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    1. Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (john whelan)
    2. Re: Mapping a cycle path across lock gates (Philip Barnes)


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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:12:49 -0400
From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
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Subject: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a canal via
the tops of the lock gates.

So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5 meters and
the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of lock gates
happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it means tricycles
are unable to use this route.

Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?

Thanks John
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:30:52 +0100
From: Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk>
To: newbies@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Mapping a cycle path across lock gates
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On Sat, 2015-04-11 at 08:12 -0400, john whelan wrote:
The local city has recommended cycle paths one of which crosses a
canal via the tops of the lock gates.


So steps up to the top of the lock gate, and a max width of .5 meters
and the path varies according to which pair of the three pairs of lock
gates happen to be closed.  The maximum width is important as it means
tricycles are unable to use this route.


Any suggestions on how it should be mapped?

That is madness, ask for a copy of the risk assessment.

I have never come across a cyclepath doing this, but do know of a public
footpath that crosses a lock gate. There is a second side barrier on
that gate for safety reasons, but it a bit scary getting a dog over.

I would map the section over the gates as a footway with
bicycle=dismount. That way routers will be deterred from using it and
find a more suitable route.

Phil (trigpoint)







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If you take a look at this URL:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/53.42176/-2.99341&layers=C

you will see a footpath crossing the canal by means of either of two lockgates. I used to use these on a bike regularly. The lock gate bridge in this case felt entirely safe and I saw many cyclists use the route. The towpath should probably in fact have a bicycle=yes tag - if I recall correctly there is signage for bikes here showing a route between Bootle and Liverpool City Centre.

bogzab

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Dr Bogumil N Zaba


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