With Recount Complete And More Ballots Counted, 
Franken's Lead Appears To Be Insurmountable


                By 
<http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/kleefeld>Eric 
Kleefeld - January 3, 2009, 6:54PM




<http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/with_more_absentee_ballots_cou.php>http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/with_more_absentee_ballots_cou.php

Today's events in Minnesota make it appear that a 
Norm Coleman victory is now pretty much 
impossible -- and it just so happens to have 
occurred on the day his Senate term officially 
expired. A nice extra touch.

Election officials today counted through about 
950 absentee ballots that both campaigns agreed 
had been wrongly rejected, completing the recount 
unless there is any new court intervention. The 
result: Al Franken's paper-thin lead of 49 votes 
has now jumped to 225 votes -- way beyond what 
most people crunching the numbers expected, based 
on the geographic spread of the newly-counted 
ballots.

With these new figures, it's worth examining just 
how slim the odds would be of Coleman finding 
some way to win this thing, should he follow 
through on his campaign's vow to challenge the 
result in court.



First, there's Coleman's claim that 25 selected 
precincts double-counted a bunch of absentee 
votes for Franken, netting Franken about 110 
votes. During the recount, the state Supreme 
Court ruled that Coleman could only raise this 
issue after the recount concluded and an apparent 
winner was determined. But if courts agree with 
him on that and took those votes away from 
Franken, Coleman would still lose. Then there's 
the canvassing board's decision to restore to 
Franken a net total of 46 votes that went missing 
from a single precinct during the recount. 
Coleman's campaign has indicated that they plan 
to contest that decision, but winning on it would 
still have him behind.

One other thing: The burden of proof in any legal 
arguments will be on Coleman, with the assumption 
going in that Franken's victory was legitimate. 
And even if he won both of the two issues above, 
he'd still be almost one hundred votes behind.

What options does he have left? Coleman's only 
hope would be to win on his campaign's latest 
efforts to restart this phase of the recount and 
force the counting of about 650 rejected absentee 
ballot envelopes from red precincts, which the 
local officials say were tossed properly. An 
affidavit from a 
<http://www.mncourts.gov/Documents/0/Public/Other/2008%20Elections/HCA_Emergency_Motion_2.doc>Hennepin
 
County election official shows the Coleman 
campaign hasn't even supplied reasons to look at 
these ballots, and election officials in multiple 
counties, including 
<http://www.mncourts.gov/Documents/0/Public/Other/2008%20Elections/Ramsey.pdf>Ramsey
 
county, 
<http://www.mncourts.gov/Documents/0/Public/Other/2008%20Elections/Pipestone.pdf>Pipestone
 
County and others all say they've been taking the 
time to review the Coleman list, and they stand 
by their decisions.

The Coleman campaign still seems likely to file 
an election contest, challenging this result in 
court. This would bottle up Franken's victory for 
weeks or even months, and delay Al Franken from 
being able to take his seat in the Senate. But at 
this point it's difficult to see how they could 
have much of a leg to stand on. It really does 
look like Al Franken's lead is insurmountable.


On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Theron Horton 
<<mailto:theronhor...@mac.com>theronhor...@mac.com> 
wrote:

Just the AP article on this so far:

<http://www.in-forum.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D95FVNS80>http://www.in-forum.com/ap/index.cfm?page=view&id=D95FVNS80


Franken gains big in count of new Minn. ballots

By BRIAN BAKST Associated Press Writer 
The Associated Press - Sunday, January 04, 2009

ST. PAUL, Minn.

Democrat Al Franken pushed his lead in 
Minnesota's Senate recount above 220 Saturday as 
state and campaign officials counted absentee 
ballots that weren't part of the original 
election tally.

Franken netted at least 175 votes more than 
Republican Norm Coleman in the review of the 
formerly sealed absentee ballots. There were more 
than 900 in the pile that were counted Saturday.

The count came on the day Coleman's term as 
senator officially expired. He entered this step 
trailing Democratic challenger Al Franken by 49 
votes.

The ballots under consideration were among those 
rejected by poll workers but later found to be 
excluded in error. The campaigns later agreed 
they should be added to the recount.

But before the counting process started Saturday 
morning, Coleman's campaign objected to moving 
forward. Attorney Tony Trimble demanded the 
counting wait until the Supreme Court rules on 
the campaign's request to add hundreds more 
ballots to the mix.

"We feel you are proceeding in a very 
inconsistent and unconstitutional manner," 
Trimble told representatives of the secretary of 
state's office.

Franken's lawyer Marc Elias said if the court 
wanted to delay the count it would have ordered 
it halted.

Things got going after the secretary of state's 
office consulted the attorney general's office.

The painstaking process of preparing the ballots 
for counting meant not a single one had actually 
been counted by a lunch break. Each ballot is 
supposed to be enclosed in an unmarked secrecy 
envelope inside of an envelope containing the 
voter's name. The morning was spent segregating 
the two envelopes to prevent anyone from 
connecting a person's vote to their name.

The absentee ballots were from around Minnesota. 
They were among nearly 12,000 rejected on or 
before Nov. 4. Local officials re-examined them 
under a court order and decided they should have 
been counted. The court, however, required 
signoff from the campaigns. Another 400 
identified by local officials were struck by one 
of the campaigns.

Minnesota has four legal reasons for rejecting an 
absentee ballot: If the voter's name and address 
on the envelope don't match their application; if 
their signature isn't genuine; if the voter isn't 
properly registered or eligible; or if the voter 
has been found to have already voted in the 
election.

The state Supreme Court ordered that rejected 
absentees be included in cases where the 
candidates and local officials agreed errors were 
made.

Coleman's campaign has a pending request before 
the high court to include an additional 650 
ballots it says were improperly rejected but not 
forwarded by local officials to St. Paul for 
counting.

The court has not said when it would rule in that case.

The end of the recount is pushing within sight 
though. The state Canvassing Board will reconvene 
Monday and, if need be, Tuesday to consider 
challenges to the actual ballots from the weekend 
count. Campaigns could challenge ballots where 
they thought voter intent was unclear or had 
another deficiency that would disqualify it.

When that is done, the board will declare which 
candidate received the most overall votes in the 
election. Barring court intervention, it will be 
Franken.

That declaration opens a seven-day window for the 
losing candidate to challenge the result in 
court. Such a lawsuit could take months to 
resolve and leave Minnesota with only one senator 
for the time being.

Coleman's campaign has said there is little doubt 
it will challenge the outcome if the senator was 
on the losing end. Franken's campaign has refused 
to outline its potential next steps.

Copyright © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights 
reserved. The information contained in the AP 
News report may not be published, broadcast, 
rewritten or redistributed without the prior 
written authority of The Associated Press.


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On Jan 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Mark Crispin Miller wrote:

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>From:  Charles Musser 
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>Always find your emails useful and informative. 
> Thanks.  Here is a question that no one seems 
>to be addressing.  Coleman wants some additional 
>ballots to be counted.  What is the nature of 
>these ballots.  Why weren't they counted before. 
> Where do they come from, etc.  How real are 
>these? etc.  Does anyone know the answer to 
>this. If you have any info, I suspect other 
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