>From my perspective, as a confirmed believer in direct observation, I don't >see the value in this kind of haphazard, ex post facto deliberation. If one is >using an automated process to detect birds, one is sacrificing direct >observation and all of the contextual data surrounding the actual events, as >well as all of the potentially accessible data pertaining to one's own >as-of-now biases in perception and knowledge. How is that fun? If you are >willing to let the software decide what is worth recording, then let the >software decide what it is, too. How could that be less satisfying than asking >other people what it is and then believing it, haphazardly and ex post facto?
Shai Mitra Bay Shore, NY ________________________________________ From: bounce-2314465-53236...@mm.list.cornell.edu [bounce-2314465-53236...@mm.list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Jay McGowan [jw...@cornell.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 9:13 PM To: Night Flight Call Discussions Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Mystery Calls Ah, that makes sense. Is there no way to extend what the detector pulls? The original call on this thread sounds a lot like a goldfinch to me. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:02 PM, Meena Madhav Haribal <m...@cornell.edu<mailto:m...@cornell.edu>> wrote: Jay, If we are using software to detect calls, then those recordings are in milliseconds. For example, my White-throated Sparrow call is just 0.34 ms, but occasionally it is longer. So at least I can't post anything that is four second long. I too have the same problem of trying to listen. But I depend on the spectrogram to tell me what it is. At least I don't record the whole night everything sound. I use Bill Evans' Tseep and Thrush detectors. But now a days I am getting used these short bursts to some extent. I am attaching a sample. Cheers Meena Meena Haribal Ithaca NY 14850 42.429007,-76.47111 http://www.haribal.org/ http://meenaharibal.blogspot.com/ Ithaca area moths: https://plus.google.com/118047473426099383469/posts Dragonfly book sample pages: http://www.haribal.org/dragonflies/samplebook.pdf ________________________________ From: bounce-2314458-53237...@mm.list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-2314458-53237...@mm.list.cornell.edu> <bounce-2314458-53237...@mm.list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-2314458-53237...@mm.list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of Jay McGowan <jw...@cornell.edu<mailto:jw...@cornell.edu>> Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 8:46:16 PM To: NFC-L Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Mystery Calls Hey all, I've posted this before, but I would implore folks posting example recordings to this list to leave a few seconds of sound before and after the call in question so you can actually hear it. With only a second-long recording, all I hear is a burst of sound with no time for my ear to acclimate to the background noise. The same goes for audio upload to eBird. We suggest leaving three seconds, if possible, before the first and after the last vocalization in the recording before upload. Thanks! Jay On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Preston Lust <prestonl...@yahoo.com<mailto:prestonl...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Thank you very much for responding. Here is another example. I think lesser yellowlegs could be an option. Thoughts? From, Preston Lust -- -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu<mailto:jw...@cornell.edu> -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L> Birding.ABA.Org<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L> Birding.ABA.Org<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Jay McGowan Macaulay Library Cornell Lab of Ornithology jw...@cornell.edu<mailto:jw...@cornell.edu> -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L> Birding.ABA.Org<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- NFC-L List Info: Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_WELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC_RULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leave http://www.northeastbirding.com/NFC-L_SubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archive http://www.mail-archive.com/nfc-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NFC-L Birding.ABA.Org http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NFC Please submit your observations to eBird! http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
