I know Fabio. You didn't surprised me with that answer, you make me just
love you more ;-) jajajaj
As you said, there're many injection points and it's really difficult to
understand them.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 13:05, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dieguito querido!! ;) my friend...
> NH is so injectable that you can change the whole behavior without touch
> the core.
> But I know... there are so many injection points that many times it is
> really difficult to understand which point choose and in many cases what I
> saw is an addition of a "more granular" injection making understandable
> the responsibility of each class.
> Taking this case as example:
> - You must inject the Dialect
> - through the dialect you can inject the Drive (you can do the same with a
> configuration property)
> - through the Drive you can inject the batch-factory (you can do the same
> with a configuration property)
> - through the batch-factory you can inject a real or a fake batcher or a
> "partially fake batcher"
>
> Instead use all already available injections the proposal is add another
> configuration-property to avoid the call of one method that is represented
> by just one code line:
> Expectations.VerifyOutcomeBatched(totalExpectedRowsAffected, rowsAffected);
>
> Perhaps the right direction would be:
> "Hi friend. I have this need..... the solution I have found is ..... is
> there another behavior-injection-point ?"
>
> Believe me that, in general, the answer is "Yes" but to find it inside
> +1400 classes is not so easy, I know.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Diego Jancic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ohh.. I see, those are good points ;-)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:12, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> - The JIRA is there
>>> - I'm not the only one contributor
>>> - NH is OSS and you can fork it <=== touchable code of this century; NO
>>> Eliot Ness
>>>
>>> My point is:
>>> Because you can't touch your code you create an issue in NH.
>>> Because your RDBMS has a very poor pagination you create an issue in NH
>>> to have a workaround.
>>> Because your framework does not create a good XYZ you ask more work in NH
>>> that should be done by NH team but following your rules.
>>>
>>> and my point about about untouchable stuff is public:
>>> http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2009/06/database-eliot-ness-of-it.html
>>>
>>> If you will remove the "expectation" check anything may happen during an
>>> insert/update/delete and you must pray that everything is under your control
>>> (from optimistic-lock to a simple value of column) inside and outside the
>>> batcher.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Diego Jancic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is it 'fundamental' ? Can't NH work without it? It looks like a
>>>> validation that could be easily removed.
>>>> I don't need it, and I think Fabio's solution is the best one, however I
>>>> see no reason to don't add a new feature to NH if the patch is submitted.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe there's another solution: make the validations injectable, that
>>>> way validations can be extended or (although it's not recommended) removed.
>>>> Came on Fabio, be good with contributors =)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:09, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The check of the expectation is a fundamental check.
>>>>> I have a proposal for you: change the stored procedure.
>>>>> You can't touch it ? well... to work with untouchable code is an hard
>>>>> living; Elliot Ness is not a guy of this century.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, mikedoherty <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if this is the correct place to be asking this question
>>>>>> but I would like to submit a patch for NH-1353 and have some questions
>>>>>> about my proposed solution and whether or not it would be suitable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basically our team need to be able to turn off the expectation that
>>>>>> the number of rows returned from the query matches the number expected
>>>>>> by NHibernate as we have no control over the triggers on our 3rd party
>>>>>> database. It would appear that we are not alone in this requirement.
>>>>>> NH-1353 proposes a potential solution to this problem along with a
>>>>>> patch but it appears that this patch was never accepted. As an
>>>>>> alternative then I would like to propose an alternative, and hopefully
>>>>>> more acceptable, solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly what I would like to propose is that this expectation can be
>>>>>> turned off for an individual entity via the class or collection
>>>>>> mapping. As a result this approach would require a new attribute in
>>>>>> the hbm schema. Is it acceptable to add new attributes or do you need
>>>>>> to keep compatibility with the Java configuration schema?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, assuming a new attribute would be acceptable, what name
>>>>>> should I give to the new attribute? Looking at the schema the sql-
>>>>>> insert, sql-update and sql-delete elements allow control over this
>>>>>> using the "check" attribute. However class already has an attribute
>>>>>> called check for constraints. Within the code there are two ways of
>>>>>> referring to this check either as an Expectation or as
>>>>>> ExecuteUpdateResultCheckStyle so maybe the attribute could be called
>>>>>> "expectation" or "check-style"? I would appreciate guidance on this
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Doherty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>
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> Fabio Maulo
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