changed the object to ienumerable, still wondring about the argument
exception there, weather this is correct

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 1:47 PM, nadav s <[email protected]> wrote:

> done but i'm not sure i did it correctly as i never had to proccess a linq
> expression...
>
> is this right?
>
>   public void SetFetchingBatchSize<TEntity>(Expression<Func<TEntity,
> object>> association, int batchSize)
>         {
>             if (!(association is LambdaExpression) || !(association.Body is
> MemberExpression))
>             {
>                 throw new ArgumentException("Batch size can only be set by
> a lambda expression which returns a member association");
>             }
>
>
>  
> this.SetFetchingBatchSize<TEntity>(ExpressionProcessor.FindMemberExpression(association.Body),
> batchSize);
>         }
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Nice job!
>>
>> How about a strongly-typed version of the collection ones?
>>
>>   void SetFetchingBatchSize<TEntity>(Expression<Func<TEntity,
>> IEnumerable>> association, int batchSize);
>>
>> Allowing:
>>
>>   session.SetFetchingBatchSize<Father>(f => f.Children, 5);
>>
>>     Diego
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 20:17, nadav s <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> *NH-2316 <http://216.121.112.228/browse/NH-2316>*
>>> although the name of the jira is subselect, the actual patch lets a
>>> developer set the batch size for an entity\collection overriding the
>>> settings in the mappings.
>>>
>>> looking forward for comments\application of the patch.
>>>
>>> thanks alot.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, nadav s <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> its much more pretty that what needs to be done now to achive the same
>>>> result
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ups sorry you have already included the option for collection...
>>>>> As you can see, nadav, the work to do in each UoW will be pretty ugly
>>>>> than the batch-size by default in the mapping...
>>>>> I would see how you will manage it in your application where,
>>>>> hopefully, the session is managed in a generic way not depending on a
>>>>> specific use-case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not enough... it should allow the batch-size per collection
>>>>>> (property-path) not only per-class.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Diego Mijelshon <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you do implement a customizable batch-size, it should be
>>>>>>> per-session...
>>>>>>> Something like the existing SetBatchSize and EnableFilter...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A possible API:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> session.EnableBatching(typeof(Foo), 100); //on Foo entity
>>>>>>> session.EnableBatching(typeof(Foo), "Bars", 50); //on the Foo.Bars
>>>>>>> collection
>>>>>>> session.EnableBatching("Foo.Bars", 50); //alternative
>>>>>>> session.DisableBatching(...); //with the same options
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Diego
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 14:38, nadav s <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of course i'll be doing the same work as batch size, i'm not set to
>>>>>>>> implement batch size all over again, but trying to allow it to be query
>>>>>>>> specific, meaning, being able to look for owners of a specific query, 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> not all owners that are in the session (owners from different query 
>>>>>>>> might be
>>>>>>>> there), and allowing it to be overrideable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Fabio Maulo 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ah...
>>>>>>>>> take care with "using IDs is more efficient" because "subselect"
>>>>>>>>> does not suffer the problem of max-parameter (IIRC 2100 in msSQL)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:03 PM, nadav s <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> great. thanks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:56 PM, nadav s <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you know the internal of nhibernate much much much better than
>>>>>>>>>>> me, and i won't get into an implementation argue with you, but it is
>>>>>>>>>>> possible to implement.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with subselect (again i'm talking about subselect because i
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't do any research on the batch size, but i guess the idea is 
>>>>>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>>>>> because it works the same, only batch size issues a good query and 
>>>>>>>>>>> subselect
>>>>>>>>>>> issues an evil one), as i've noticed, there is a special one-to-many
>>>>>>>>>>> collection persister, that knows once the collection is accessed, 
>>>>>>>>>>> use a sub
>>>>>>>>>>> select batcher that loads the collections of all the owners that 
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>> returned by the initial query.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if the persister could have been set, or modified, for a specific
>>>>>>>>>>> instance of a collection, it would have been possible - you could 
>>>>>>>>>>> have set
>>>>>>>>>>> the batch size\subselect for a specific query, which in turn would 
>>>>>>>>>>> have set
>>>>>>>>>>> a different persister for the collections that their persisters 
>>>>>>>>>>> needs
>>>>>>>>>>> modification, and then when a collection would have been accessed, 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> persister would have done its thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of course, i'm not sure thats the proper way of implementing it,
>>>>>>>>>>> but as an idea - tell the specific collections that are created for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> entities of a specific query to do something else than the default, 
>>>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:49 PM, John Davidson <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think nadav is saying that subselect from NHibernate is an
>>>>>>>>>>>> issue, but the implementation he is proposing will fix that problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> John Davidson
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Fabio Maulo <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your first assertion : "btw, i don't really get what is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem with subselect"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your second assertion : "the sub select is always inefficient"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM, nadav s <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sub select is always inefficient, especially when there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an initial complex query (with sub queries in it), and its a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> killer when its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a two level tree (when fetching the grandchildren). fixing it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really easy, and i can't see any downside to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different use cases in a web app:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use case 1: sub select\batch size is NOT desired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    the user searches for car companies by some criteria. the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user will then choose (double click on a grid's row or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something) one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    companies to see it in full details. each company has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one-to-many car types (mazda -> mazda 3, mazda 5, mazda 6...) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and each
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    car type will be displayed in its own tab, when at first,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the newest car type or the most expensive one, doesn't matter is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    each car type has its models, mazda3 2008 isn't the same as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010 (i don't that much about cars and not sure the years are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    but there are differences between the models).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    the result: if carType.Models is mapped with some batch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> size, say 10, the models of 10 of the car types are now fetched, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    the user only watches the models of one of the car types,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if there could be lots of models for each car type, it slowed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tab,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    and made the other tabs faster, because their car types are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now loaded, but its not what is desired, because the user is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expected to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    click on only one of other tabs or something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  use case 2: desired:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     the user wanna see some custom developed report (ui that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be implemented with MRS/Cognus or any other reporting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     and we have all kinds of reports that live up to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition, and for some good reasons also). for the report the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searches for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     car companies by some criteria (some search form) and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expects to see the returned companies, paged of course, but with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     of their car types, and for each of the car type - all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its models. here, a sub select or batch fetching is a must or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else we'll get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a CP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     with join fetching, or N^2 + 1 if we do regular lazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading (like we wanted to do in the first situation).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course we can work around that, and thats exactly what we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do, using a generic mechanizm that for reports, eager fetches 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with sub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> selects and not joins, the association it was asked to fetch. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular queries, it just use the default which is regular lazy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would have been really really nice, if i could have set,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the report query, query.SetFetchMode("CarTypes", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FetchMode.SubSelect)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or if you will, query.SetBatchSize("CarTypes", 20)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and same for models
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> query.SetFetchMode("CarTypes.Models", FetchMode.SubSelect) or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> query.SetBatchSize("CarTypes.Models", int.MaxValue).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it must be max value because i want all the models, and can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly know how many car types are going to be there. of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course it won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be alot, because the "query" is going to use paging, but i don't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if its 20, 40, or something else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch size, currently makes me choose between the use cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowing down one of them, or makes me query and connect the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associations my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self. same goes for sub select, which also issues an inefficient 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> query for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CarTypes and a killer query for the Models
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before my fix it would have been:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> select ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Models m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where m.CarTypeId in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    (select c.Id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     from CarTypes c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     where c.CompanyId in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             (select company.Id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              from Companies company
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              where <could be some crazy crteria - this is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same where clause of the very original query>))
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i was able to make itthe inefficiency of the query
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Fabio Maulo <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know which is the problem... you said that there is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem and you want change it using the same tech used by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch-size (using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded ids) because subselect seems inefficient in some cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:48 PM, nadav s <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> btw, i don't really get what is the problem with subselect,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it lets you efficiently fetch a whole object graph for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N fathers that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were fetched in some query, in the most efficient way possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 6:46 PM, nadav s <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i don't think its thats low priority, because it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually a thing people expect to happen when they set a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fetch mode to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eager, at least i've seen alot of situations when people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really thought that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thats whats going to happen  (later finding out it killed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their query with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CP)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about when it is helpful - exactly in the situations diego
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> described. two use cases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one of them you query the fathers and gonna need only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one of the father's collection, and for the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're gonna need all of their collections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it gets more complicated when there are grandchildren
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved, and in one of the situations you want the grand 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> children of one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the childs, and in the other situation, because you load an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> object graph,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're gonna need all of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, either you implement (similar to what diego said) the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading of the collections yourself, or you gonna have to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> batch size slowing down the first situation, where you would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have prefered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lazy loading without batching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Diego Mijelshon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have entities where batch loading helps in some use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cases but it loads lots of unneeded entities/collections in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other complex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use cases, where I have many proxies but only use a few.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My current workaround is doing "manual batch loading"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e. dummy query) in the cases where I need it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be definitely a low-priority but nice-to-have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Diego
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:12, Fabio Maulo <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is possible for batcher (INSERT, UPDATE,DELETE).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand where it is useful for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collection/relations batch-size.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Diego Mijelshon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being able to override batch-size would be useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Implementing it requires messing with more than one part 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Diego
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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