No intention of bashing you.
What would be the benefit ?
All this make me think of a Winston Chruchill citation :
"Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to
unlocking our potential. "; and I think that this perfectly fit to the
spirit of the nh team (not meaning they are not intelligent).
And another one from Goethe :
/"/"Having ideas is like having chessmen moving forward; they may be
beaten, but they may start a winning game.", and that is what I keep in
mind everyday when I design something.
Being honest Frans, I like your passion. In fact, in my "business", I
have the same. And sometime, frustration takes over and generates
misundersandings.
But you can still have a drink and think to something else, and be proud
of what you built. It is a far better option. ;-)
Fred
Le 28/08/2010 20:33, Frans Bouma a écrit :
The same way you do; I'm selling a software (vertical solution, that makes
the difference) and it is using NHibernate. (2.x version) I don't want to
be
rude with you, but you get the answer you deserve.
a little odd, don't you think, considering I was asking a normal
question?
For some reasons (reasons you know yourself as software provider), you can
provide as much documentation and tutorials, webcasts, blog entries on the
subject, people will always ask the same questions.
I'm reading this list on a daily basis, and I can't count the "how to
handle
sessions", "why is the save or update not working".
Yet, everyday, they (the "wind" team ;-)) they keep on answering kindly.
I must recognize that it took me some time to understand Fabio sense of
humor, but I've never read a meaningless answer from him.
Frankly speaking, even if I know a lot of people in my industry, if they
one
day enter my support forum giving me lesson on the way I should managed my
product, I would probably kick them out and be pissed off.
Ego based reaction ? Yes.
I didn't gave a lesson, I asked a question, because I wondered about
it for some time now. The reason I asked is because for me to provide a
solid layer on top of NH for what my work does is difficult besides the
persistence part: all other stuff is scattered around in a dozen projects
with various quality, docs, etc. while all of it is in fact only usable with
NH, so IMHO it's better for users of NH if the 'package' NH simply brings
everything you need to the table: persistence _and_ entity services.
To be honest, I don't see why that's a) giving a lesson how to run
things and b) such an awful question to ask.
And here..Well...It is OSS man. You think something needs to be done ?
Then contribute ! Do it for the community. Give some free time to build an
information blog.
I don't see why NH being OSS has anything to do with it: if the team
decides these 50 features have to be implemented, then if someone asks 'how
can I contribute?' it's the same as with mono: look at the list of stuff to
be done and implement it, document it, etc.
IMHO a more efficient way of getting things done, also with OSS.
I have no bad feeling and I have a great respect for your knowledge and
your
job. But obviously, you ask a question that would be relevant on the LLBL
user forum (and agree that you have a real product management) but it is
quite pointless here.
On the contrary, I don't see how asking about why NH isn't going
into a more defined direction on my own forums is getting the answers I'm
looking for.
But again, if asking these kind of questions is reason to bash me or
my post or whatever, wtf is wrong then as I don't get it.
FB
Regards,
Fred.
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