Thank you for that, Dennis. When I got my Hawk I got my new battery at the
"Stealership." Maybe that's why I have had zero problems with my charging
system. I didn't know enough about batteries (or some other parts like my air
and oil filter) so I ordered them from the guys that knew more than me.
It is certainly worth not being stuck at the side of the road.
Hey Paul....can you save Dennis' e-mail on the Nighthawk site? Thsi one is
very important and I may want to access it again in the future...
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Hammerl
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:49 PM
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Charging issue?
OK, here goes. One time only for all to see what Honda has to say about
all of this. (remember I'm one of those evil stealership people you all love to
hate)
The charging system is engineered around a certain set of parameters.
The regulator/rectifier is set to decrease output when a predetermined battery
voltage is reached.
In the case of brand X batterys, this may never happen so the charging
system will continue to run at high output. Over a long ride it WILL boil out
the electrolete. Taken over a long time the whole system may fail due to
running at such a high level. The OEM battery is a Japanese made Yuasa with a
wing logo on it. This signifies the battery excedes the criteria agreed upon by
Honda. A battery without the logo is good but not as. The standard is VERY high
for those. The Yuasa batteries made here in the USA by Deca are not as good as
the Japanese editions. Still better than any other. Now how this applies to
anybody is seen in cases such as yours. The aftermarket battery may never
achieve the the voltage level needed. Please do not plague me with the argument
that all batteries are alike...BS. The preperation of a battery is crucial to
this whole system. A battery must be filled and left to sit for at least a half
hour and then charged for 45 minutes at 1/10 it's rated capacity before being
put into service. Failure to do this results in a battery with only 80% of it's
rated capacity and the inabilty to make the charging system perform at optimum.
The battery is an essential component of the charging system and serves to
complement the regulator.
In short, yours does not. You cannot ever improve upon a battery that
has been improperly prepared and put into service. Once the damage is done,
it's done.
Our facility does not sell any other brands of batteries. Just ain't
fair, is it ? You have the responsibilty of your own bike, I have (effectively)
the responsibilty of the several thousand that pass through our shop each year.
Our reputation for customer satisfaction dictates that we use only the highest
quality replacement parts... OEM.
--- On Sat, 10/11/08, wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Charging issue?
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 12:59 PM
I think it is a champion, new this year.
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Since I am roundly criticized about my electrical diagnosis,
I'll limit my reply to one question; what brand of battery is that ?
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging issue?
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:02 PM
Hi all!
I am having an issue, occasionally, with my 83 650. Two
weeks ago I went on a long ride, 3 hours, with no problems. That was a
Saturday, on Monday I went out to ride to work and heard only a grunt from the
starter. The battery was low on water. Filled with distilled and plugged in
my charger and drove the car to work. After work started right up and has each
time (5) I have gotten on it since then. So any ideas what it could be?
Thank you for your help and advice in advance.
Wayne
83 CB650SC
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