If you can get the car over to his place of business and have him do it while 
you wait that would be the best thing. Ask him...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angela Kennedy 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:34 AM
  Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping for more 
then a few pointers


  Thanks HRM!  The ignition has never been changed before. Its a '93 Mercury 
Tracer. Fortunately, I don't drive it much. I figured he was being honest but I 
just wanted to double check. Hey do you think there is a way to cut the 
ignition key w/o removing the ignition from the car? I know it may sound silly 
but my resources are few and I'm trying to get this done with the least amount 
of labor and money. So far he wants to charge me $70 to make the key if I bring 
him both door lock and ignition. I think its a whole more if they have to come 
out to your house. Like $125-150 or more.


  On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Creative Residential Designs 
<[email protected]> wrote:

    That depends on what kind of car you have, whether the ignition has been 
changed out before and so forth. I would say that he's being honest though. I 
have a friend who owns a locksmith shop and he's keyed many of my cars. They do 
indeed need both ignition and door locks to create the keys. HotrodMamma.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Angela Kennedy 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
      Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping for more 
then a few pointers


      SPEAKING OF KEYS, does anybody know if you have a car where the key fits 
both the door and ignition and if you remake a key to fit JUST the door, it 
won't fit the ignition and vice versa?? I was told , over the phone, to remove 
my door lock so the locksmith could get the code and remake the key. So I was 
thinking that if I get  door key made, volla!, I'd have the igniton. But, when 
I got there with door lock in hand, the locksmith said it it didn't work like 
that. He'd have to have both the door lock and the igniton to create a working 
key for both. Is this true or is this guy just trying to get my money. Can 
somebody verify cause I've been a bit frustrated about this ever since I lost 
my key to my car.(the only key, which I'm positive will turn up right after I 
spend money I don't have on a locksmith) The guy does work at a reputable 
neighborhood locksmith but you never know. I wanna be sure before I fork over 
this cash.


      On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Mark Hasslinger 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              In southeast Asia, the local keymakers hold the blank keys in 
their toes and a file in two hands so as to get a steady and straight cut and 
make a key in about a minute and a half. No problem.


              --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:

              From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
              Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping 
for more then a few pointers
              To: [email protected]
              Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 8:02 PM


                I'm surprised you were able to find an actual locksmith. There 
was an old guy in my hometown, made all his keys by hand on a grinding wheel, 
and would try it in your lock to make sure he was happy with it before he took 
your money. Its hard to find craftsman like that anymore.

                -Kyle 



                On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:48 PM, The Webby <[email protected]> 
wrote:


                  I was a dummy and lost my keys to my bike - I thought I was 
going to
                  have to spring for 200 ignition assembly until a bike 
mechanic told me
                  to simply take the ignition switch to a locksmith and have 
him cut a
                  key from that - the good thing about that - it matches the 
tank lock
                  and the others.
                  cost me 27$

                  On May 11, 9:34 pm, Christopher Anderson 
<[email protected]>
                  wrote:

                  > Hey Colin,I have the exact same model and I've been through 
ignition issues
                  > already.  On an otherwise bulletproof bike it's a poorly 
designed part, so
                  > I'm wondering that your fusebox might be fine.
                  > I got mine 2 years ago, in similar condition, and last year 
the ignition
                  > started acting up, cutting out while I was riding or not 
turning the
                  > headlight/signals/gauges on.  Plus the key came out with 
the engine still
                  > running.  I was able to replace it with a part from a 
similar model, I think
                  > maybe the '84 or '85.
                  > I would suggest if you have a multimeter you should unbolt 
the headlight,
                  > pull it out far enough to get access to the ignition 
contacts, and check
                  > that there is continuity to the fusebox for the correct 
circuits in the
                  > correct key positions (listed in the electrical schematics 
of the manual, or
                  > I could walk you through it).
                  > The point is, I think it's worth having a look at before 
you resolve the
                  > tank cap issue.  If your ignition is the electrical 
problem, then you might
                  > be able to replace them both and get a matching set with a 
single key.
                  > -Christoph
                  >
                  > ps. If the plastic cap over the ignition contacts is still 
in one piece, you
                  > are a lucky man.  Be very careful with it.  If you can 
trace the wires out
                  > of the ignition and test them elsewhere, all the better.
                  >

                  > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Cdawgdevine 
<[email protected]>wrote:

                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > > i called a bunch of lock smiths no one will pick it, and 
its not the
                  > > same key as the ignition at some point and time some one 
must have
                  > > replaced the ignition or tank lock, i found a site that 
has all the
                  > > parts i could ever need for the bike, and they have 
locking gas caps,
                  > > it seems there is no other options and all the fourms i 
keep reading
                  > > tell me the best option is to drill it out and replace it
                  >
                  > > On May 1, 11:16 am, Tree Doc <[email protected]> wrote:
                  > > > DRILL OUT THE LOCK?!!! AY CARUMBA!!!
                  >
                  > > > Holy Moly, get some advice on that option before taking 
it. Have a
                  > > > locksmith pick it or something. I'm not well-versed in 
tank locks but
                  > > > that's the only mechanism that keeps your tank closed. 
The key for the
                  > > > ignition is the same key that opens the tank unless one 
or the other
                  > > > have been replaced somewhere along the line.






             
             
              






  

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