It would seem that isopropyl alcohol would not do any more removing of water than ethanol would. They are both able to bond with either water or gas, and hence their ability to "remove" water from gasoline. I can not remember what country it is in S.A., but one uses alcohol as a fuel anyway, corrosive as it can be. I concur that paying more for alcohol free fuel and then adding it back, even if it is isopropyl, is throwing away money. If there is a boost in power, it is because the water that the alcohol soaked up is burning in the fuel. Alcohol produces less power than gasoline, but the added water (15%, I believe) enhances the power of the alcohol when it turns to steam in the burning of the alcohol. This makes it somewhat the equivalent of gasoline. If one uses water injection, with a high compression engine (like more than 12.5:1), it will produce much more power with half the fuel. Like this guy (a mechanic), for example, replaced the stock pistons in a Ford Focus to up the compression to 12.7:1 and added water injection. Stock compression was, I think, like 8.7. He still used 87 octane, and went from stock 25 mpg to 50 mpg with increased performance as well. My device only boosts power minimally, but makes the fuel charge burn clean and faster, which ups the mileage, some 40% to - I've personally achieved 62% in an old Dodge Dynasty, which means about 27.8 mpg on the road, where stock was about 17. It was about 13 in town, and that went up to 20 to 21. In a Subaru Legacy, I achieved an increase from 27 to around 41 or 42, which is around 66% - and that's with a leaky intake valve and going between 80 and 100 mph. It was an intake, because as the velocity of the air going in increased, the stumbling of the engine misfiring decreased; also, due to the charge burning more quickly, the power was generated sooner and therefore headed out the exhaust before the intake. Before the valve started leaking, I was getting around 30 - 31 mpg. The benefits arent limited to increased mileage. I also found that, after 10,000 miles of driving in the Dynasty, the oil no longer turned black and the power of the engine was restored to nearly stock, so far as I can tell (it would invariably spin the tires on wet pavement if I didn't use just the barest pressure on the pedal). The other advantage - and this would really benefit Nighthawks, being as they're air cooled - is because the charge burns faster, produces its power sooner, the heat doesn't get dissipated partially in the exhaust valves. In other words, in a normal burn without brown gas (hydrogen and oxygen from the water), the burn would be going on as the charge, still burning, heads out the exhaust, heating up the valve. I know, because way back when, riding my Honda 50 step thru at night, I looked down and saw a red glow on the pavement. I leaned over more and saw that it was coming from the cherry red exhaust pipe. Now, if the exhaust pipe was that red, think of what torture the valve was taking at 9,500 rpm. In a critical situation where the engine can't get rid of the heat, it would build up and cause a burned exhaust valve. Remember that, in the few milliseconds the exhaust valve remains closed, it has to transfer enough heat to the seat and the head to keep from burning up. Hence, the finned retainer around the exhaust pipe where it connects to the port. It is a marvel of alloy technology that prevented the exhaust valve in that small engine not to burn up, while producing that much power: five horsepower out of a 50cc engine (actually, 49cc). Stanley
________________________________ From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, June 18, 2010 7:16:11 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner I understand trying to find ethanol free gas, I wish I could, but then adding your own alcohol back into the mix to me is a waste of time. -Kyle On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:18 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: I dont see what the issue is with ethanol if you burn it through your system before it has a chance to separate and gum up... Marine people complain about ethanol more then anyone ive ever known..... Case in point a "friend" of mine pays more money to buy ethonal free gas for his 2 stroke outboard, then puts rubbing alochol (isopropoal alochol) and maervel mystery oil into the mix (no, no 2 stroke oil at all).... He claims that it boosts the octaine and removes water, but i see it as a waste of money... Anyway had to get that off my chest > >-----Original Message----- >Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:32:13 pm >To: [email protected] >From: "Graham Rogers" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] new NH 750 owner > >Hey GG, send some of that ethanol free stuff our way and a 55 gal >drum of your Sta-bil, >Graham '02 NH750 > >On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:13 PM, eugene george wrote: > >> I recently purchased a 1999 750 NH that was in pristine condition >> (5800 miles-always garage-kept). It has been a delight to own and >> ride. >> I've enjoyed following the posts to this group and learn something >> new every day. I've followed with great interest the posts on the >> use of Seafoam. I have used the marine version of Sta-bil as a >> fuel suplement, which has 4 times the additive as regular Sta-bil. >> I also have found a gas station in Sarasota, Fl where I live that >> sells 90 octane without ethanol. The combination of the 2 have >> left me with flawless performance. >> Compliments to all who share their vast knowledge of the venerable NH. >> >> GG >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
