what is the above standard battery for the 83 650 nighthawk the manual says yusa anyone know is this it? paul
From: nighthawk_lovers+nore...@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 8:12 PM To: Digest Recipients Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 6 Topics Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics a.. Bikers doing some incredible GOOD! [3 Updates] b.. worried about cut out [6 Updates] c.. 1984 Honda CB700SC - $800 (Waterford, VT) [3 Updates] d.. Speed Bleeders? [3 Updates] e.. Local Goldwing for sale - addition to Joey's thread [1 Update] f.. 85 Nighthawk [9 Updates] Topic: Bikers doing some incredible GOOD! Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> Mar 14 02:40PM -0400 ^ Unfortunately for us, this behavior (harassing other motorists "for fun") isn't limited to those with four wheels. :( Some of the local riders seem to have a massive entitlement complex regarding their own right of way and their position in the hierarchy of the roadways, or an even bigger chip on their shoulder that everyone else is out to get them if they don't have their own way. I think everyone, and I mean /everyone/ (myself included), would do well to always remember that driving is a cooperative, rather than competitive, venture. There are no winners or losers on public roads, and trying to turn it into such a situation just makes everyone a net loser. -Kurt paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com> Mar 14 03:06PM -0400 ^ stanley, i dont know where you are or if you would be up for a total rebuild on a 450 rebel, but i happen to know where a few are that the owner might be willing to let go of... lets just say that they have been sitting in the weather for 20+ years now Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com> Mar 14 03:11PM -0500 ^ So I shouldn't mount the machine guns to the front of my bike? -Kyle Topic: worried about cut out "Allen Thomas" <althomas...@gmail.com> Mar 14 11:55AM ^ Restriction in the fuel line? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Watters <amwsail...@gmail.com> Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:07:03 To: <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] worried about cut out Hello, I own a 95 750 with 20K miles. Awesome bike, amazing purchase, getting into doing the oil and monitoring everything, etc. Anyways, I let the bike rip finally and when I got to 8K RPMs at 115mph on the gauge, the throttle was moving but the bike backed-off and then shut down. Remembering something from the manual that said to get into neutral asap if that happens, I did so and coasted to a stop. I shut down, restarted...swear that the bike rumbled for a few seconds, and has been the fine since then (at least to 65000 rpms!). Anyways, I just want to know what may have happened and if I can sort it out or make things better, etc. I am just geting into my nighthawk and am super stoked about my bike. Any advice for standard mantainence?! Any essentials? Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. surfswab <surfs...@gmail.com> Mar 14 04:59AM -0700 ^ Sounds like you hit the rev limiter. stanley/ Randolph <tinkrm...@yahoo.com> Mar 14 10:12AM -0700 ^ Porsche and VW used rev limiters when I worked on them and the engines never shut down when they reached the high RPM limit. The engine just stumbled, the car sort of hesitated and did an oscillation between accelerating and decelerating, and would go no faster. There may be another problem, but I am not that familiar with such on Hondas, either cars or bikes. Sometimes the rev limiters would cut out at an extremely low RPM but then they were actuated by centrifugal force against a spring and grounded out the spark so it didn't reach the cylinders. Bottom line? It didn't pay to purchase a cheap aftermarket produced rev limiting rotor when it was time to replace the current one... ________________________________ From: surfswab <surfs...@gmail.com> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 6:59:42 AM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: worried about cut out Sounds like you hit the rev limiter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Porsche Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com> Mar 14 12:20PM -0500 ^ Do our bikes even have rev limiters? I'm pretty certain the 80s bikes don't. -Kyle Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> Mar 14 02:13PM -0400 ^ My 750 very definitely has a spark-cut rev limiter. Hitting ~8500 is like running into a brick wall. -Kurt Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com> Mar 14 03:04PM -0500 ^ Well, learn something new every day. What's the redline for you guys? My 700S redline's at 10.5K according to the tach. I've never actually ran it up that high though. -Kyle Topic: 1984 Honda CB700SC - $800 (Waterford, VT) "Bob Bunnell" <bobbunn...@charter.net> Mar 14 03:03PM -0400 ^ On Craigslist: http://burlington.craigslist.org/mcy/2263761629.html Bob Bunnell 518 314-1612 <mailto:bobbunn...@charter.net> bobbunn...@charter.net Back Porch Band www.backporchband[dot]com <mailto:bobbunn...@charter.net> (copy this link and then replace "[DOT]" with ".") Timothy Stark <tstark1...@gmail.com> Mar 14 03:09PM -0400 ^ If only I had time to ride home from vermont > with ".") > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Graham Rogers <graha...@ptd.net> Mar 14 03:59PM -0400 ^ That could be a good deal - depending on the mileage, etc. On Mar 14, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Bob Bunnell wrote: Topic: Speed Bleeders? MrViggy <mrvi...@gmail.com> Mar 14 09:58AM -0600 ^ Hey all, Anyone know if there is an equivalent speed bleeder part for the '84 CB750SC? There's none listed under "Motorcycles" at their site: http://www.speedbleeder.com/ Thanks! Viggy Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> Mar 14 02:46PM -0400 ^ If you know the pitch and diameter of your stock bleeder bolts (any good hardware store that deals with Metric can help you measure this, if you don't know it) you could use their "Sizes" page to figure out which one you need to buy. On a side note, they list an M10 bleeder bolt. That's freaking huge! Colour me goggly-eyed! -Kurt MrViggy <mrvi...@gmail.com> Mar 14 01:11PM -0600 ^ Yeah, I was taking the lazy route and asking first. :) I have these on my car, they work great in bleeding the brakes. I'm going to have to do something with my bike, it looks like I have a leak somewhere in/around the master cylinder. I figured for $7, I'd pick one up to make the job a little easier. Viggy Topic: Local Goldwing for sale - addition to Joey's thread paul annen <greenzer...@gmail.com> Mar 14 02:50PM -0400 ^ great looking bike there.. and its only got half the miles mine does! (is it just me or should i not be proud of my miles? granted most of them i havent put on it... but i high mileage bike and a high mileage rider is something to respect) Topic: 85 Nighthawk "Bassam Khalil" <bassam.kha...@rcig.net> Mar 14 10:01AM -0500 ^ I was warming up my 85 Honda Nighthawk since the weather was warmer in St. Louis and after about 20-30 minutes of running it turned Off and the Battery was Dead. Does anybody have Any idea on why it did this and if so how to fix. Thanks for your Help Bassam Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> Mar 14 11:49AM -0400 ^ Marginal battery charge finally running out? Sounds like you weren't charging while riding about. -Kurt Graham Rogers <graha...@ptd.net> Mar 14 12:11PM -0400 ^ Like Kurt said, engine not revving high enough for charging system to maintain battery. Were you idling it to warm it up under 2000 rpms or were you riding it and/or keeping rpms above 2500 rpms? It's not charging enough to maintain battery under about 2000 rpms. If your battery was already low, it wouldn't take much to deplete it. Charge the battery, check that it's holding a charge or 12.6 or above and try again. If battery does not maintain a charge it probably needs replacing, Graham On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Bassam Khalil wrote: "Bassam Khalil" <bassam.kha...@rcig.net> Mar 14 11:25AM -0500 ^ It was running around 1500rpms and yes the battery was low already. I was worried it was a big issue. Thanks again for the info. I will Fully charge the battery. Thanks Bassam From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Rogers Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:11 AM To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 85 Nighthawk Like Kurt said, engine not revving high enough for charging system to maintain battery. Were you idling it to warm it up under 2000 rpms or were you riding it and/or keeping rpms above 2500 rpms? It's not charging enough to maintain battery under about 2000 rpms. If your battery was already low, it wouldn't take much to deplete it. Charge the battery, check that it's holding a charge or 12.6 or above and try again. If battery does not maintain a charge it probably needs replacing, Graham On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:01 AM, Bassam Khalil wrote: I was warming up my 85 Honda Nighthawk since the weather was warmer in St. Louis and after about 20-30 minutes of running it turned Off and the Battery was Dead. Does anybody have Any idea on why it did this and if so how to fix. Thanks for your Help Bassam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. stanley/ Randolph <tinkrm...@yahoo.com> Mar 14 10:27AM -0700 ^ He didn't say if he rode it for 20 - 30 minutes, so we can't really make a determination on the assumption that he rode it. But we can assume that there may be a weak battery involved, given the nature of the Nighthawk's charging system and the requirement for an above standard battery. Possibly. My 450 quit for the same reason. I need a new battery... ________________________________ From: Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 10:49:51 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 85 Nighthawk Marginal battery charge finally running out? Sounds like you weren't charging while riding about. -Kurt On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bassam Khalil <bassam.kha...@rcig.net> wrote: I was warming up my 85 Honda Nighthawk since the weather was warmer in St. Louis and after about 20-30 minutes of running it turned Off and the Battery was Dead. Does anybody have >Any idea on why it did this and if so how to fix. > >-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. "Bassam Khalil" <bassam.kha...@rcig.net> Mar 14 12:41PM -0500 ^ I was not riding it. I was just letting it run. From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of stanley/ Randolph Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:27 PM To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 85 Nighthawk He didn't say if he rode it for 20 - 30 minutes, so we can't really make a determination on the assumption that he rode it. But we can assume that there may be a weak battery involved, given the nature of the Nighthawk's charging system and the requirement for an above standard battery. Possibly. My 450 quit for the same reason. I need a new battery... _____ From: Kurt Nolte <vturbine.po...@gmail.com> To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 10:49:51 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 85 Nighthawk Marginal battery charge finally running out? Sounds like you weren't charging while riding about. -Kurt On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bassam Khalil <bassam.kha...@rcig.net> wrote: I was warming up my 85 Honda Nighthawk since the weather was warmer in St. Louis and after about 20-30 minutes of running it turned Off and the Battery was Dead. Does anybody have Any idea on why it did this and if so how to fix. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Stefano Ascari <stefanoasc...@gmail.com> Mar 14 01:07PM -0500 ^ I think we have a mystery solved here... Bassam, you need to be riding at speeds where the rpm reaches at least 2000 for the alternator to kick in. Otherwise, the battery is slowly being discharged. You should be fine :) Stefano Kyle Munz <kyle...@gmail.com> Mar 14 01:08PM -0500 ^ These bikes don't charge at idle. You have to keep the RPMs up over 2000-2500 before it begins to charge. A good ride will charge it, or pick up a battery tender. -Kyle "Bassam Khalil" <bassam.kha...@rcig.net> Mar 14 01:11PM -0500 ^ Thanks. I ready to appreciate the feedback. From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stefano Ascari Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:08 PM To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] 85 Nighthawk I think we have a mystery solved here... Bassam, you need to be riding at speeds where the rpm reaches at least 2000 for the alternator to kick in. Otherwise, the battery is slowly being discharged. You should be fine :) Stefano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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