You're seeing 12V *across* the fuse? On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:52 AM, marcel cerdan <[email protected]>wrote:
> > Hummm ... I quickly checked last night but if I had a ground cable > issue I would not see my 12.6v on the two sides of the main fuse by > the battery when I turn the key on... Right ?! (it goes back to 0 when > ignition is off) > > (scratch scratch the head.. ) > > > On Oct 14, 1:05 am, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Did you remove clean and inspect your ground cables? > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: marcel cerdan <[email protected]> > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:44:13 > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Day 2 : Power failure... help > > > > bouuuhhhhaaaaaaaaa !!!! > > > > Rushed home from work, pulled out the tools, got cranking, fighting > > time (light going out and rain menacing)... > > > > First checked battery... 12.56v... good... Double Checked main fuse... > > ok... made a quick test : turning the ignition key does cut the > > contact at the main fuse level, so the ignition key works... > > Took out the windshield, empty wires from light box, took it out, > > unhook horn, unhook fuse holder... checked the back, all seems ok... > > pushed all cables, wiggled, giggled... removed all fuses for a double > > check... > > NOTHING !!! > > (yes, I had reconnected all the wired after removing the casing to > > make sure at least something would come on...) > > > > Put all back in place, took our saddle, follow up the wiring there > > (all good, no tape or anything like that), twisted the gas tank to > > check the wires under there....... > > > > By the time all is back in place, it is night... and IT IS STILL DEAD > > IN THE WATER ! > > > > Ok, I didn't remove all the connectors behind the fuse box... maybe I > > should have... but I pushed hard on all the cables and nothing came > > up... > > > > BBBBoouuuaaaahhhhh !!!! > > > > Today's conclusions : battery is good, ignition does open power at the > > main fuse level... > > > > Open to suggestions (Yes, I'll rip everything off that damn fuse box > > next time...)... > > > > On Oct 13, 7:40 am, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I always start with the battery. It'd suck to circuit test the whole > bike > > > only to find a dead battery. From there I'd move up to the ignition > switch > > > and fuseblock. > > > > > -Kyle > > > On Oct 12, 2011 8:04 PM, "marcel cerdan" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > Well I did the jiggle tonight, under freaking NJ rain, but I guess I > > > > didn't hit the right spot. 10mn only and I gave up, put the cover > back > > > > on, and went to get dry... > > > > > > Also looked at the key cylinder and it seems to be all there. > > > > > > Next attempt friday afternoon, with a toolbox, more time, and a wish > > > > to succeed... Received the Clymer book meanwhile, which showed be how > > > > the support of the fusebox is holding. Any other leads I should look > > > > into while I'm at it on Friday ?! :-) > > > > > > Week end is supposed to be nice and damn it, this bike is going to be > > > > revived ! > > > > > > On Oct 11, 4:31 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yep, it's the one under the headlight. Just to jiggle the wires and > test > > > > for > > > > > loose connection you don't have to take anything off. To take the > > > > fuseblock > > > > > off for cleaning you have to strip it down a bit. This is a common > enough > > > > > problem with the 650s. The connectors aren't very tight and cause > arcing > > > > and > > > > > may even melt the plastic a bit. When you take it a part > disassemble the > > > > > female ends of the to connectors so you can bend the contacts out a > bit, > > > > > this way when it goes back together it's a tighter connection. I've > got > > > > pics > > > > > of my teardown online athttp://www.kylemunz.com/nighthawk/?p=166 > > > > > > > -Kyle > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, marcel cerdan < > [email protected] > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok back of the fuse box I'll check ... Now we re talking about > the > > > > > > front fuse box under the headlight behind the horns, not the 30a > fuse > > > > > > holder by the battery, right ? (oh the newbee feeling suddenly > > > > > > invading my head...) > > > > > > > > Now to have easy access there to check it all, it's headlight off > it's > > > > > > mount and horns down, right ??? > > > > > > > > Also found out while checking wiring inside the headlight that > the > > > > > > plastic framing of it had cracks. Any clue to find a new one ? > (the > > > > > > small windshield was mounted touching the headlight... I guess it > put > > > > > > on pressure with time) > > > > > > > > Its a 650sc 1985... > > > > > > > > Only rode it for a day and already miss the smooth engine ... :-) > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 10:03 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > Kyle is correct. This is an ignition switch problem at the back > of > > > > the > > > > > > fuse > > > > > > > box. I have an 84 650 and this has happened to me twice. I > would be > > > > > > riding > > > > > > > along and the bike would just shut off, nothing worked. Some > wire > > > > > > wiggling > > > > > > > at the fuse box and it would come back to life. This happened > 5-6 > > > > times > > > > > > one > > > > > > > day, not fun. A thorough cleaning of the 2 ignition plug > connections > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fuse box and dielectric grease solved the problem. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM, marcel cerdan < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > OK, > > > > > > > > > > Bought a very nice 1985 Nighthawk... yesterday. I drove 70 > miles > > > > back > > > > > > > > without any issues, runs like a kitten, battery remains > charged > > > > (known > > > > > > > > issue...) > > > > > > > > > > Happy as a king > > > > > > > > > > Used it yesterday afternoon to do a little tour, all is > well... > > > > > > > > > > Today, I want to use it... all light come on, starter starts, > then > > > > all > > > > > > > > goes off... Impossible to get anything on anymore.. Web > browsing > > > > > > > > (manuals are in the mail :-) ) found location of the 4 15 > amps, all > > > > > > > > good. Main 30a fuse seems ok... > > > > > > > > > > What am I missing ?? I try the key juggle, verified all > > > > connections, > > > > > > > > got 12.6v on the battery... there must be another fuse > somewhere ! > > > > > > > > > > Help !!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Stef from NJ ! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > > > > > Groups > > > > > > > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > > > Groups > > > > > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > > . > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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