As a newb I'd be against having someone else do your exploring. tho it'll take longer, in todays world of digital pics and an e-mail group full of semi knowledgeable people with a few experts tossed in (who that is depends on the exact subject at hand) You'll learn more about bikes, and your bike by doing all of it yourself. Not to mention the basic lesson of installation is the reverse of removal. If you take it off, taking pics at every step (in jr high auto shop we had to draw pics of each step. To this day I take pics of things as I go along. My phone is full of work pics, and my camera still has pics of my lawn mower carb linkage from this summer.) you can post pics with your questions, get answers within 12 hours, and be on your way with $$$ in your pocket for new tools.... que Tim Taylor grunts.

At 10:49 PM 3/2/2012, you wrote:
stick your nose in the filler hole, you'll smell whether it's burned or not. Another consideration. I have had three bikes in the last year that were low on compression on one or more cylinders. One was 30 psi on one cyl of a twin, another was less than that on an inline 4 (Yamaha XJ650). Two of those bikes the compression came back after running the bikes for a while. The problem I suspect was rust on the valves or v seats and it was burned off.

On Mar 3, 2012, at 12:25 AM, <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] wrote:

While it is uncertain what the problem(s) may be, all the information from just a compression check gives you a good idea what's going on inside the engine. Also look at the dipstick. If it's dark above the oil level,the engine likely has overheated, in which case I would definitely ponder the possibility that it needs a complete overhaul. The money you spend on exploratory surgery should apply to the work needing to be done.
I wish you well with your project.




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From: surfswab <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Mar 3, 2012 00:46:18 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk with disappearing oil

Yep. My take was the $300 was just an "exploratory" fee. As in, "I-
don't-know-exactly-what's-wrong-with-your-motor-but-it-will-cost-you-
that-much-just-to-find-out."

Once the cause is determined, how much in parts/labor to get it back
functioning?

For my own mother, not such a deal (!)


On Mar 2, 2:45 pm, Graham Rogers wrote:
> $300 - that was just for taking the top end apart. What about putting it back together?
>
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Hawaii Sean wrote:
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> > Stefano,
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> > The first question you have to answer is $300 worth 40 plus hours of
> > your time?  Also, $300 for the work you're talking about seams really
> > low to me.
>
> > Most important question: do you trust this mechanic?  I'd look for
> > another one in your town just to get a second opinion.  I did that
> > once and was really glad I did - I went back to my original mechanic
> > and will never let anyone else touch my bike.
>
> > Last question:  Do you like wrenching on stuff and to you think this
> > project would be fun?  If your answer is no then pay the $300.
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> > Let us know what you decide and what happens.
>
> > Aloha - Sean
>
> > On Mar 1, 1:00 pm, Stefano Ascari wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
>
> >> So went in and spoke to the mechanic in person. It seems the pressure on
> >> cylinder #3 is 70 pounds (should be in the 140 range according to
> >> mechanic). He said for 300$ he could tear it apart and then he would be
> >> able to determine more exactly what was the cause.
> >> The motorcycle is in pristine condition overall. Both the front and rear
> >> tires are brand new and everything else has been well taken care of. At
> >> this point I think I'm looking at two options:
>
> >> A. Have the mechanic tear it apart and determine the problem with cyl #3 > >> and then re-build it myself over the summer (I don't know anything about
> >> mechanics or how motorcycles operate).
> >> B. Sell the bike for parts.
>
> >> I have a working space in my garage and I'm ok learning new things. But
> >> like I've said, I have no previous experience with this kind of stuff. Is
> >> re-assembling an engine terribly complex?
>
> >> You guys have been extremely helpful in the past and I find this email list
> >> an invaluable asset. Thank you for all the informative emails!!
>
> >> Any suggestions?
>
> >> Stefano
>
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