ALL metals corrode, because all metals will oxidize. Water is a very good oxidizer.
Not all oxidation is bad. Anodizing, for instance, is good oxidation and used to protect aluminum surfaces. Kurt On Apr 5, 2013 12:51 PM, "Pastor Ron" <pastor...@cox.net> wrote: > I’m not buying the soapy water causes corrosion. They are aluminum wheels. > Aluminum is non-ferrous… no metal to rust or corrode. There was a big > discussion on the ST page about water getting into the valve stems and > freezing. But the consensus was it all seemed a bit far fetched. **** > > ** ** > > *From:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com [mailto: > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Allen Thomas > *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2013 11:07 AM > *To:* Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping**** > > ** ** > > Bead breaker. > > http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/bead-breaker/motorcycle-tire-bead-breaker.htm > **** > > bolt cutter or hacksaw on the bead after slicing off the tread.**** > > ** ** > > using lashing straps to mount a tire. > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=299597**** > > I've got tire lube already. Soapy water I have read can corrode the > aluminum rim. Besides the mounting lube was cheap.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Pastor Ron <pastor...@cox.net> wrote:**** > > I've changed a number of them, and never used a knife. And don't know if > that would even work to cut the wire bans down along the rim. I have found > the bead can be broke easy enough with my 200 lbs on top of a plank to the > rim. (However since I changed my own, I never put a sealant in the tire. > That may be more difficult.) The thing to be really careful about is the > rim > itself that you do not damage it. The secret to stretching it over the rim > when taking the back side off, is to get the tire in the center of the rim, > where there is more room for it to slip over. Also make sure you put the > new one on in the right direction use soapy water for lubricant.**** > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab**** > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 9:27 AM > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!**** > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > Rather than them adopting a punitive stance toward the bargain shopper, > they'd be a lot more successful applying some enterprising capitalism. > > How 'bout if the sign read: > > "Tires mounted $36. Free mounting if you bring in your wheels and buy from > us." > > Let the consumer decide which is the better deal. No need to mention > "discouraging" a certain class of buyer. No need to mention the lack of in > stock brands, and no need to mention they'll probly get their + > $20 from markup on the tires. > > l would have at least stuck around to hear the fine print of that deal. > > > > On Apr 5, 9:10 am, "Pastor Ron" <pastor...@cox.net> wrote: > > I don't know why I can't let this go. $72 is still not that bad. > > Their point of charging the extra $20, I take that as a smack down. > > It's meant to punish and insult you for being concerned about the $. > > They certainly have a right to be paid for their services, but insults > > are not the way to inspire loyal customers. > > > > However if they had that tire I wanted in stock, that would be a > > different thing. Because I would be willing to pay for the > > convenience. That's the way it used to be! But now they want the > > prices/profits/charges of the old days, without supplying the service > > or convenience. I've been to my Honda dealer here a number of times > > and they do not have even the basic of parts or metric screws. The > > screw store down the street has more metrics than they do. I would > > have been willing to pay much more than internet prices if they just had > the blasted thing in stock so I could get the bike running. > > The whole dealer thing is messed up IMHO. > > Ron > > > > From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joey Kelley > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 7:25 AM > > To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > > > Ron, > > Sorry - $36 X 2 = $72 - not $92 / hour - but your point is > valid. > > I think that shops today are trying very hard not to become > > boutiques that show things but never sell things - in the case of > > helmets and other gear - or places that just install things with no > > margin on the parts. Unfortunately - I think that this is just bucking > > a trend. Small shops are going to have to start selling parts on > > either 0 or close to it margin to compete with direct purchasing > > warehouses. Otherwise, they will be in the position of being > > significantly higher priced than say a dealer that works through their > > manufacturer's discount plans. As a result, people will start to go > elsewhere. > > Thats just my 2 cents! > > -Joey > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Pastor Ron <pastor...@cox.net> wrote: > > > > Price board said "Tires mounted $36 (+$20 if you supply the tire)" > > > > It's a half hour job. That's $92 / hour. But that is not enough money > > for us so we'll slap on another 20 buck fee. Suppose Eye Masters > > said, since you did not get your prescription here, there is a $20 fee? > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:07 AM > > To: Nightwawk Lovers > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > > > You'd probably know better than me but weren't the hondamatics small > > bikes (less than 500 CC) ? > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: surfswab <surfs...@gmail.com> > > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 01:56:01 > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> > > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Window shopping > > > > I suspect that was Honda's nod to the 55 mph speed limit in the U.S. > > back in the day. My '82 GL1100 has one of those 80 mph speedos and I > > can assure you it will go much faster. > > > > The Hondamatics will get there and beyond too, but they had a rep for > > taking a long time to do it (not much on acceleration). > > > > On Apr 5, 4:16 am, John Stewart <john-stewar...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > I thought it would be faster than that I have never seen one before > > > as they didn't sell them in This country > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 5 Apr 2013, at 01:33, "Allen Thomas" <althomas...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I'm sure the bike goes faster than 80. > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: John Stewart <john-stewar...@hotmail.co.uk> > > > > Sender: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 23:27:53 > > > > To: > > > > nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com<nighthawk_lov...@googlegroups.co > > > > m> > > > > Reply-To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Window shopping > > > > > > I have no trouble getting tyres for my cb700sc over here in > > > > Ireland . I was offered a cb750a nighthawk hondamatic tonight the > > > > speedo only goes up to 80 mph top speed is that normal it seems > > > > very slow > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On 4 Apr 2013, at 23:23, "Pastor Ron" <pastor...@cox.net> wrote: > > > > > >> They have to make their money however they can. I wonder if it > > > >> discourages internet buyers or just gives them a bad rep. I have > > > >> changed all of the tires myself on the Nighthawk. Not sure how > > > >> that will work on the ST. I may just buy a tire changer and > > > >> offer to > > help other guys. > > > >> Ron > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com > > > >> [mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of surfswab > > > >> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:09 PM > > > >> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! > > > >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Window shopping > > > > > >> Stopped at a hole-in-the-wall Yamasuki shop while running errands > > > >> to see if they offered a tire-mounting service. > > > > > >> Price board said "Tires mounted $36 (+$20 if you supply the tire)" > > > > > >> "Why the extra twenty bucks," I ask. > > > > > >> "We sell tires, so we do that to discourage internet buyers." > > > > > >> "Do you stock Dunlop 491s for Goldwings and Avon Roadriders for a > > > >> Nighhawk 750?" > > > > > >> "No, just Michelins and Shenkos, but we can order yours." > > > > > >> "Where would you order them?" > > > > > >> "Off the internet." > > > > > >> 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