I agree. I don't carry because I have a violent temper - rager. For the most part I have it under control but when I do loose it, I have to be careful not to escalate. That's why I won't carry. Just in case I do loose control.
Thank you, Ross -----Original Message----- From: "paul annen" <greenzer...@gmail.com> Sent: 10/3/2013 8:35 PM To: "nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com" <nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] That NYC video As i drive my fiances suv home tonight there is a shotgun in the back seat. If that had happened to me i would try to.drive away, but as sooon as they are imminent to cause harm to me/my.family/my.properties, there will be action.... And as the show says "no half measures" On Oct 3, 2013 8:42 PM, "Rmj" <roscopic...@yahoo.com> wrote: In Texas, there is a good chance of getting shot in that scenario. I don't carry, nor will I get an HCL. Thank you, Ross From: Hawaii Sean Sent: 10/3/2013 5:54 PM To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] That NYC video First off I'm hoping this doesn't effect the way people look at bikes riders. Having looked at a couple of the videos, watched the news and read everyone's comments I'm just flat out shocked that one of the bikers isn't dead. As a daily rider I get nervous when I get caught up in a pack of bikes and even more nervous when I get caught in a swarm of idiots like these guys. Bottom line, the guy that did the break check was an idiot and is lucky if he didn't get really hurt or even killed. The SUV driver was probably surprised by them at some point and honked or flew the bird and then the bikers reacted. I'm a flee not fight kind of guy and only fight when I'm cornered. If it was be behind the wheel and someone tried to open my door my wife would be on the phone with 911 until we were safe. I would have thrown my car in reverse and taken out as many of them as I could and then swerve left or right as I took off to take out couple more. If they were stupid enough to follow me I'd swerve and knock as many of them down as I could. I'd also stay on the highway until a cop arrived. In the end I'm sure the SUV has a much better range then the bikes - assuming you have the gas. It's survival mode and a matter of attrition - 4 wheels have a serious advantage. Sean On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:29:31 AM UTC-10, Kyle Munz wrote: I'm guessing everyone has seen this on the news by now. So, what's everyone's opinions on this incident? Bikers' fault or the Range Rover driver's fault? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOyDMzn2bY -Kyle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nighthawk_lovers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.