|Date: 26-Mar-1999 21:30:47
   |                 Can anyone give me some of their experience/knowledge
in
   |                 regard to a Nikon 80-200 f2.8ED AF lens,
   |                 NB not the D series and also a Nikon 180 f2.8 ED AF
lens.
Sorry about the delay in answering but I'm finally getting my slides back
from developing.

I just bought the 180D F2.8EDIF AF lens.  While you are not looking at the
D lense my understanding
is that the 180 lens "family" is the optically the same, the differences
being the D chip and lens coatings
on the newer products.

I ended up getting the 180 instead of the 80-200 zoom for a bunch of
different reasons....
- Slightly cheaper.
   Nice but not a big persuader.
- Smaller.
  The 180 is an inch or so smaller in length.  Helpful for my new camera
bag.  The zoom would have
   required an even larger bag which I don't want.
- Lighter.
   The 180 is about half the weight of the zoom.  Much more important to
me.
- Quality.
  The 180, from all of the information I could find, is slightly better
than the zoom at the long end.
  This is more important to me.

I have taken around 200 exposures with this lense in the last couple of
weeks.  About 70 exposures
are back from developing, but its enough to make me very impressed with the
 lense.  I have taken shots of
moving animals in generally poor light which has caused me to expose the
film with an aperature at
2.8 maybe getting to F8 on some shots.  So far I cant see a difference
between any of the exposures due
to the lense.  I'm looking at the slides on a PortaTrace 4 light table with
 a Zeiss 5x lupe.  The film I have
gotten back has been Ektachrome 100 and maybe a 200.

There have been some shots where the zoom would have been easier to use.
Did I lose a shot because
I did not have the zoom?  No, I just had to move back a bit to frame the
subject correctly.  I have also hand
held the lense where the shutter speed was around 1/50 a second.  Not all
of the exposures worked because
the peacock moved his head but there was not camera shake that I could see.
  BTW, I was sitting down in a
very stable position, don't think I was standing up doing this!  8-)  I
don't know if'n I could have done the same
thing with the zoom.  Might have just not sure.  I KNOW that I'm happier
carrying the prime for a couple of hours
vs the zoom.  Ironically, I'm NOT that sensitive to the wieght of my camera
 gear but I did want to keep it as
light as possible especially when the lense is in use.   I'm use to
carrying 60 pound back packs so a few
pounds in camera bag is a nit.

While on the subject of weight and bags, I bought a f.64 bag and I'm very
happy with it.  It has a shoulder
strap as well as a belt so you can wear the bag like a waist pack.  Works
very well for me.  With the 180 lense,
I'm now carrrying more weight than every before but the new bag makes it
seem much lighter.  My old bag
could hold everything, 24/2.8, 35-70/2.8, 105/2.8 micro, 70-210 junk zoom,
and N70.  But after a couple of hours
my shoulder would just plain hurt.  The new bag does not because the
shoulder strap has far more padding.
I just don't notice the F.64 bag.  When I wear it as a waist pack it is out
 of my mind until I need something in the bag.
Very impressed.

So, which lens to get, as always, depends on how you take picutures.  I am
very impressed with the lense.  It is
allowing me to take pictures that I simply could not take before.  Period.
  The fit and quality of the 180 lense is
first class.  The built in lense hood is very, very, very nice.

You might want to check the archives of this list, as well as some of the
other web sites that have reviews on
the various lenses.  Start with www.lisp.com.au/~mmphoto/nikon

   |                Thanks for the advice
Your welcome.

Hope this helps...
Dan McCarty

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