Quoting Shea Levy (2012-06-26 16:26:02)
>Hi all,
>
>It seems apparent to me that many in the community have some level of
>dissatisfaction with how contributions to the various nix projects are
>handled. Sometimes the only solution to problems like this is a fork (as Peter
>seems to believe), but I think there is a good chance that things can be
>improved without fracturing the already-small group. I think three things are
>necessary for this to happen (I apologize for the formatting, I don't have
>access to a well-featured mail app right now):
>
> a) Those who have concerns need to explicitly bring them up in a way
> aimed toward fixing the problem while taking into account the reasons it
> happened in the first place, rather than trying to place blame. Particularly
> important here is that people recognize that any change will have a cost and
> that different people in the project will have different opinions on the
> relative weighting of the costs and benefits.
>
> b) Those who propose alternatives need to be willing to step up and do
> the work necessary to implement those alternatives themselves. For example,
> if you think too many emails to the list get dropped with no response, you
> need to be willing to respond to as many of the emails as possible.
>
> c) Those with the authority to do so need to be willing to make a) and
> b) possible. This doesn't mean anyone who requests permission to make a
> change in how things are done should automatically be given such permission,
> but that any such request needs to at least get some form of consideration
> from someone who has the ability to grant it.
>
>Obviously only a few people have control over c), but the rest of us can and
>should freely do a) and b). So please, if you have concerns respond in this
>thread. Let's try to build the experience we want. I will reply myself with my
>own particular concerns.
>
i would only wish for one thing to happen once a year and i believe most of the
issues that you mention will go away, that is:
meet nixers, spend couple of days hacking on nix* stuff and have fun.
we're geeks and most of geeks are by design not capable of nice communication.
not that we're bad people just we're quite stuburn and high on our ego. once
you meet other developer over a beer things magically change becayse you "know"
him in person. i might be also wrong and this only applies for me :)
also there is not much to do to organize such a thing. one big room with
unlimited access so we can work long into night, coffee machine and internet
that is fast enough to handle the load of everybody.
AND ... i hope to see some of your asses in augsburg next weekend.
--
Rok Garbas - http://www.garbas.si
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