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> I lost traction in the "init field" a long time ago, so I liked that
> upstart could run the traditional systemv init scripts too, which I'm
> familiar with. However, during Christmas I was witness of upgrading
> more Hardened Gentoo machines to systemd (form OpenRC). In terms of
> speed, it
> made a huge difference, probably mostly because of parallel service
> startup. After the upgrade the machines were booting within seconds,
> while before it took much longer. I'm not too much fond of python or
> perl though...

Question I have is, how often are you booting/rebooting a machine?

Any savings in time of the service startup is usually wasted on my machines due 
to a long uptime forcing fsck.

There is a machine under my control right now nearing up on 6 years of uptime. 
So what you saved a few seconds of startup, it is effectively irrelevant to 
total run time.

I have an asterisk machine at 2.5 years uptime.

I am in agreement with some of the systemd detractors, if we diverge in a linux 
only direction, we may hurt other OSS unix like systems. This doesn't seem like 
a good community move. I think we need to look at the idea that desktop 
computing is dying. Linux is winning the mobile world even if most people don't 
realize they are using it. I think linux is still inching away in the server 
and infrastructure world. 

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Steven Critchfield [email protected]

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