On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 08:39:18 -0500 Jerry Heyman <je...@hobbeshollow.com> sez:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:53:34 -0500, David Levine <levin...@acm.org> wrote: > > > Bob wrote: > > > > > I do see in the headers of your reply that the first "Received:" > > > header uses "HiddenHostname" ... but also the FQDM(?) of your Oops, that should've been FQD_N_. B-) > > > Verizon connection > > > > FQDN, in this case for a dynamically assigned address so not > > very useful to anyone other than Verizon. Though they choose > > to provide a geographic hint, and "fios", in the name. Right. I was hopeful that even that could be hidden. For example, if I use the Gmail web interface, the Received: headers indicate that it came from Gmail itself (which makes sense). I was thinking it'd be useful to replicate that, even when I'm actually sending it from my laptop _via_ the Gmail servers. But: > > > So, while I could hide the hostname of my laptop, I wouldn't be > > > able to hide its "public"/ISP-assigned name (and IP address). > > > > Right, as Tom noted: > > > > Received: lines are generally added by each MTA that the message > > passes through. In this case it was smtp.gmail.com that added that; > > it's not under your control. You can probably modify the "Hikaru" > > Not sure this is helpful, but for years I've hidden my actual > host I send mail from which is > > unix.hobbeshollow.com > > by putting the following entries in my mts.conf > > localname: hobbeshollow.com > masquerade: draft_from mmailid username_extension > > This allows me to send email as je...@hobbeshollow.com. > hobbeshollow.com is my domain. > I pay a 3rd party to connect for my outbound mail from > hobbeshollow.com a nominal fee annually because ATT turned off > that capability about 18 months ago. > > > David > > > > https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2021-03/msg00012.html > > > > jerry > -- > // Jerry Heyman | The first law of economics is scarcity of > // Amigan Forever :-) | resources. First law of politics, ignore > \\ // heymanj at acm dot org | the first law of economics > \X/ | -- Thomas Sowell On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:10:18 -0500 Jerry Heyman <je...@hobbeshollow.com> sez: > On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 11:34:21 -0500, Ken Hornstein <k...@pobox.com> wrote: > > > >by putting the following entries in my mts.conf > > > > > >localname: hobbeshollow.com > > >masquerade: draft_from mmailid username_extension > > > > Just FYI ... we got rid of all masquerade support ... 9 years > > ago? Definitely in nmh 1.4. Now, we didn't get rid of the > > FUNCTIONALITY. Basically there were all these bizarre rules > > around setting your "From" header that you could use the > > masquerade entry to relax and we finally agreed that was > > dumb, so we got rid of them and you can set your From header > > to anything now. That line isn't harming anything, but you > > can safely remove it if your nmh is reasonably up to date. > > Ken, > > My nmh is 1.7, so reasonably current :-) > > Since I created during the nmh/mh early days, I've not noticed > the masquerade support was incorporated. the mts.conf file had > served me well for all these years, and I just migrate the same > one from upgrade to upgrade. Since no longer necessary, I'll > remove it! (If it helps, my NMH is also version 1.7.) I use the "clientname" option because otherwise it is set to "localhost.localdomain" (since I don't use "localname"), and that has been shown to be a huge red spam flag. But, I think I should not use the "localname" option. If I correctly understand the implication of using it -- specifically, "the hostname nmh considers local" -- then I think this would be problematic, as the alternative "local hostname" I'd want to specify would be "gmail.com." But then, any time I email "f...@gmail.com," NMH would try to deliver that locally instead of sending it to the Gmail server, no? That'd result in 100% bounces, since not even my own Gmail username, "dnc2dnc," is a valid login ID on my laptop. I suppose "b...@gmail.com" would work, except I don't know them and so don't email them except by accident. B-) Bob > Thanks! > > jerry > > > > > The use of localname is fine; there are other ways to > > accomplish that, but that's certainly one way of doing it. > > > > --Ken > > > > > -- > // Jerry Heyman | The first law of economics is scarcity of > // Amigan Forever :-) | resources. First law of politics, ignore > \\ // heymanj at acm dot org | the first law of economics > \X/ | -- Thomas Sowell
