Hi, Erik,

I used the verbatim code to display N, PY and PRN as following:
  N
PY                                                       PRN
   41.000000000000000        2.7671611818342951E-002
0.49276963297266801
   43.000000000000000        2.7591659225047215E-002
0.54805960633167350
   36.000000000000000        2.5616752954880914E-002
0.35729249248958578
   30.000000000000000        1.9915741290055054E-002
0.21661535130662532
   37.000000000000000        2.6267270860777087E-002
0.38355976335036285
   22.000000000000000        1.0867759499611255E-002
8.9478694580212931E-002
   55.000000000000000        1.8084583253195025E-002
0.82941264157082595
   71.000000000000000        3.4957267809518117E-003
0.97907873491882547
^C
So, both PY (EXP(-X)) and PRN are not too small to calculate. I also used
Excel to calculate PY PRN values with N increasing from 1 to 90. The
results are the same as above.
Thank you.

Yucheng Sheng
Research Associate
School of Pharmacy, UCL


On 30 July 2014 11:57, <e.olof...@lumc.nl> wrote:

>  Hi Gerry,
>
> EXP(-X) might become such a small number that PRN no longer increases. For
> example, 0.5+S is represented as 0.5 for small S. Using verbatim code (see
> nmhelp) you could print N, PY and PRN to see if something like this occurs.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Erik
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] on
> behalf of Gerry Sheng [shen...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:40 AM
>
> *Cc:* nmusers
> *Subject:* Re: [NMusers] Simulation problem of normal distributed data
>
>   Dear Goyal,
>
> Thank you for your advice. I changed the second seed to 17545, but the new
> cutoff number of  records is 1498 . If data records>1498, the same problem
> still exists.
>
>  Best wishes,
> Yucheng Sheng
> Research Associate
> School of Pharmacy, UCL
>
>
> On 29 July 2014 23:25, Navin Goyal <navingo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sheng,
>> I don't know the exact reason behind such mysterious behavior but if you
>> just change the seed number (the UNIFORM seed) it works.
>>  e.g.   I changed the seed# from 7545 to 17545 and was able to simulate
>> 1000 rows for the subject.
>>
>>  $SIMULATION (6446) (*1*7545 UNIFORM) ONLYSIM NOPRED SUB=1
>>
>>  Its a rare occurrence but may be the seed number caused some issue
>> (while generating sufficient samples to satisfy the constraints you set up
>> using the DOWHILE LOOP). For example I think the same seed number (7545) may
>> work when the DOWHILE condition is reversed
>> (RL .*LT*. PRN) however it may not be appropriate based on your problem.
>> .......or may be there is some other explanation to such occurrence.
>>
>>  Kind regards
>> Navin Goyal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Gerry Sheng <shen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   Dear NMuser,
>>>
>>> I encountered a strange problem when I used the following code to
>>> simulate normal distributed data. When the data records >797, no result
>>> appears with NONMEM run into an infinite loop . But when the records
>>> decreasing to 796 (delete the last row), the results will occurred
>>> immediately. Anyone else met this phenomenon? Any comments and suggestions
>>> are appreciated. Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>> $PROBLEM PD
>>> $INPUT ID,CONC,DV
>>> $DATA data.csv IGNORE=@ ;
>>>
>>> $PRED
>>> NMEAN=THETA(1)+ETA(1)
>>> SD=THETA(2)
>>>
>>> ;Simulate count
>>> IF (ICALL.EQ.4) THEN
>>> N=0
>>> PRN=0
>>> CALL RANDOM(2, R)
>>> RL=1-R
>>> DO WHILE (RL .GT. PRN)
>>> LNNOR=LOG(6.283185)+2*LOG(SD)+((N-NMEAN)/SD)**2
>>> PY=EXP(-0.5*LNNOR)
>>> PRN=PRN+PY
>>> IF (PRN .LT. RL) N=N+1
>>> ENDDO
>>> DV=N
>>> ENDIF
>>>
>>> $THETA
>>> (30,41.7,60) ;MEAN
>>> (2,14.4,50) ;SD
>>>
>>> $OMEGA
>>> 0 FIX ;MEAN
>>>
>>> $SIMULATION (6446) (7545 UNIFORM) ONLYSIM NOPRED SUB=1
>>> $TABLE ID TIME DV ONEHEADER NOPRINT FILE=npctab1.dta
>>>
>>> data.csv like this
>>> ID    CONC    DV
>>> 1    0    .
>>> 1    0    .
>>> 1    0    .
>>> 1    0    .
>>> 1    0    .
>>> 1    0.01    .
>>> 1    0.01    .
>>> 1    0.01    .
>>> 1    0.01    .
>>> 1    0.01    .
>>> .....
>>>
>>>  Yucheng Sheng
>>>
>>>  Research Associate
>>>  School of Pharmacy, UCL
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>> Navin Goyal
>>
>
>

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