Use of mixture model may not be suitable here, if the underlying distribution 
of eta's for the different subgroups is not normally distributed. Based on the 
description, it looks like you have 3 degenerate eta distributions(ETA ~0 for 
no AE; ETA ~1 for 25% AE and ETA ~10 for 7% with all AE), which violates the 
normality assumption.

Upon quick search, I came across this article, where they have described almost 
a similar situation as yours.  They have used a two part mixture distribution 
to take care of the large proportions of the subjects with no AE.  Hope it is 
helpful.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14977163
          Kowalski, Kenneth G., Lynn McFadyen, Matthew M. Hutmacher, Bill 
Frame, and Raymond Miller. "A Two-Part Mixture Model for Longitudinal Adverse 
Event Severity Data." Journal of Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics 30, no. 
5 (October 2003): 315-36.

Thanks.

Mathangi Gopalakrishnan, MS, PhD
Research Assistant Professor
Center for Translational Medicine (CTM)
School of Pharmacy, UMB
Ph: 410-706-7842

www.ctm.umaryland.edu<http://www.ctm.umaryland.edu/>




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Behalf Of Mark Sale
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:30 PM
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Subject: [NMusers] Mixture model with logistic regression


Has anyone every tried to use a mixture model with logistic regression? I have 
data on a AE in several hundred patients, measured multiple times (10-20 times 
per patient).  Examining the data it is clear that, independent of drug 
concentration, there is very wide distribution of this AE, 68% of the patients 
never have the AE, 25% have it about 20% of the time and the rest have it 
pretty much continuously, regardless of drug concentration.  (in ordinary 
logistic regression, just glm in R, there is also a nice concentration effect 
on the AE in addition).   Running the usual logistic model, not surprisingly, I 
get a really big ETA on the intercept, with 68% of the people having ETA small 
negative, 25% ETA ~ 1 and 7% ETA ~ 10. No covariates seem particularly 
predictive of the post hoc ETA.  I thought I could use a mixture model, with 3 
modes, but it refused to do that, giving me essentially 0% in the 2nd and 3rd 
distribution, still with the really large OMEGA for the intercept.  Even when I 
FIX the OMEGA to a reasonable number, I still get essentially no one in the 2nd 
and 3rd distribution.  I tried fixing the fraction in the 2nd and 3rd 
distribution (and OMEGA), and it still gave me a very small difference in the 
intercept for the 2nd and 3rd populations.

Is there an issue with using mixture models with logistic regression? I'm just 
using FOCE, Laplacian, without interaction, and LIKE.







Any ideas?



Mark




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