Dear Jeroen, Jakob, Philip & all

Many thanks for sharing your insights & responses.
Thanks,
Santosh

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 6:14 PM Philip Harder Delff <phi...@delff.dk> wrote:

> Hi Santosh,
>
> While this is not a direct answer to your question, you may be
> interested in using NMsim to do the simulation from R. NMsim calls
> Nonmem to do the actual simulation so you need Nonmem on the same system
> as where you run R. With the recent version 0.1.0 NMsim runs on Windows
> as well as Linux/Unix systems. You must know the location of the Nonmem
> executable for this to work. See help on the website in the link below.
>
> If using NMsim, you would estimate your model first (with or without
> EVID=2 records doesn´t matter), and then you run NMsim() with a
> simulation data set on the estimation control stream:
>
> simres <- NMsim(file.mod="path/to/your/control_stream.mod",data="df.sim")
>
> df.sim must be a data.frame with ID and other columns needed by Nonmem.
> This could be EVID, TIME, AMT, etc. for ADVAN-type models. NMsim will
> then create a new control stream tailored to your df.sim but with
> $SIMULATION instead of $ESTIMATION, and with updated parameter values
> from your estimate, save df.sim with that new simulation control stream,
> run Nonmem on it. Finally, it will collect the resulting data and
> combine it with the input data. "simres" is your complete simulation
> results data set.
>
> The code above will simulate new subjects. In your case, you want to
> reuse emperical base estimates for your simulation, so you can use the
> provided "NMsim_known()" function for that:
>
> simres <- NMsim(file.mod="path/to/your/control_stream.mod",
> data="df.sim",
> method.sim=NMsim_known)
>
> Just make sure df.sim contains ID values that match the ID numbers you
> used in the estimation, and the ETA's will be reused. If you are using
> SAEM based estimation, you must output the ETA's in your output tables
> of the estimation control stream for this to work. NMsim also includes
> functions to help creating the simulation data set (in your case, see
> ?addEVID2).
>
> The advantage of this approach is that you separate the simulation from
> the estimation process. You can do a wide range of simulations with very
> little modification to the above code. You can also send the models to a
> cluster if you have access to one such.
>
> See the NMsim website and github page for much more information and
> vignettes with examples:
> https://philipdelff.github.io/NMsim/
>
> Best,
> Philip
>
> On 2/25/24 16:08, Jakob Ribbing wrote:
> > Hi Santosh,
> >
> > Yes, with your setup, having EVID=2 records with e.g. DV=“.” for
> > missing: the $TABLE output would per default include both the EVID=0
> > (observation) and EVID=2 (to obtain predictions) records.
> > So if you output (in table file) IPRED or e.g. CIPREDI, these could
> > contain predictions for both types of records.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Jakob
> >
> > Jakob Ribbing, Ph.D.
> >
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> >
> >> On 25 Feb 2024, at 21:41, Santosh <santosh2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I am familiar with the classic estimation/simulation methodology,
> >>  wherein predicted values (of DV, for example) are obtained after
> >> applying estimation ($ESTIMATION) followed by simulation ($SIMULATION)
> >> ....
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there a way to use an input NM dataset (having inserted
> >> longitudinal records with blank DV ( EVID=2) such that non-missing DV
> >> records are used for estimation and predicted DV values are generated
> >> for all EVID (including EVID=2) records with only $ESTIMATION method?
> >>
> >>
> >> TIA
> >> Santosh
> >>
> >>
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