As Bob has already shown, it's not "broadband" that is the issue.

Forget the enormous costs ($440/home) shown in the IEEE article.

A much greater issue is ownership, control, and boundaries (which come
up between utility/consumer and, in this mode, utility/telco).  Any
system operated by a 3rd party has implications for predictability and
control.  SLAs are fine, but I know of a smart metering system that
failed because the carrier found the penalty lower than the profit
margin on sending SMSs (text messages) for paying (non-negotiated
bulk) consumers.

Meter reading is fine - you can wait, but real-time and *control*
applications over WiMax or any other carrier, shared network? One has
to think carefully.

Rahul

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Bob Frankston
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Even without all the political over tones the word "perfect' seems
> antithetical to the idea of resilience. Perhaps one of the "skilled
> employees" at the NSA it trying to signal a concern?
>
> This reminds me of Y2K reasoning in assuming that every system is very
> brittle and the only fix is to harden it. In fact the real lesson of Y2K and
> the Internet is the power of loose coupling and the constraints of best
> efforts which force you to deal with exceptions and verify information.
>
> It's not just about the NSA butting in but the larger problems with the
> so-called "Smart Grid" where all the old ideas seem to go to fester. There
> was a worrisome piece, WiMax for Smart Grids
> (http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/wimax-for-smart-grids) in
> IEEE Spectrum. While much of the confusion may be due to the author of the
> piece it does reflect much of this rigid sloppy thinking. The power industry
> has long been enamored with the idea of building its own network though
> finally, it seems, the Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) cited in the article
> may have finally been put to rest. The article itself uses a big number --
> 300 billion bytes per year for the data from a million smart meters -- as a
> rationale for requiring a high speed network. Yet 3e11 bytes is 3e12 bits
> (10 bits/byte to round up) or (3e12/1e6) 3e6 bits per home per year or 1e4
> per day (300 days rounding the result up) or 1e4/1e5 bits per second
> (rounding) or 1e-1 bits per second. 3e11 is a WAG but for those who want
> false precision 3e11*8/1e6/365.25/24/3600=.08bps. That's not exactly high
> speed. While it's tempting to comment on the article as a blooper reel the
> real question is the extent to which it reflects politician/regulator
> understanding.
>
> If the government wants to protect us against attacks shouldn't it be
> working on improving the resilience rather fostering a climate of brittle
> dependency?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Why it's hard to hack the power grid, and why NSA is the wrong choice to
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