I commented in long form on Bruno's blog, but it's not showing for some reason. Here are the highlights:
...(paragraphs talking about my experience helping newcomers)... Node had "promises" early on and we learned a very important lesson with them. Hiding the non-blocking nature of code is bad! ... Node "promises" had a method called "wait" that would just suspend the current stack and return the value after the promise was resolved. This was dangerous .... Luckily Ryan has the sense to remove this feature quite quickly, but it left a bad taste in all our mouths ever since for ... faux blocking. ...(some paragraphs saying that streamline isn't as evil as promise.wait was)... I think streamline is a brilliant piece of engineering and I'm sure there are people who really benefit from such a tool. Just understand it's not for everyone. On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM, <r...@tinyclouds.org> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Bruno Jouhier <bjouh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I posted a follow-up on my blog: > > > http://bjouhier.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/node-js-awesome-runtime-and-new-age-javascript-gospel/ > > Bruno, we are evangelizing callbacks because this is the only it can > possibly work in JavaScript. You can add a preprocessing step (which > is apparently what streamline is doing) - we will not do that. You can > add some crazy longjmp in your extension and juggle executions stacks > and try to forget how much memory they are or fight with stack over > flows - we will not do that. JavaScript has a run-to-completion model > which we do not seek to circumvent. Node is JavaScript - even more > than that - Node is V8 JavaScript. If V8 adds generators, we will have > them - if not then not. One of the key reasons Node is successful > (unlike all of other server-side JS systems) is because it actually > uses JavaScript and not some JavaScript-like language. > > I'm glad you like Node. As you said, it is simple and fast. It got > that way by keeping things simple and fast. It will remain simple and > fast by continuing to strive for those goals. > > This is a discussion to bring up with the EcmaScript committee. > > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en
