On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Isaac Schlueter <i...@izs.me> wrote: > I've been through the paces quite a few times trying to optimize the > hell out of very hot code. In the last few years, this has been > mostly in V8, of course, but the basic principles are not too far off > in different JS environments. > > It's important to not put too much weight in rules of thumb, and we > programmers are particularly bad at that, given our tendencies towards > abstraction. But that disclaimer out of the way, I've found very few > exceptions to these two rules: > > 1. If you have more than one of something, use a class; not a "plain > old object". I recently changed the "url" module in node-master, and > made it twice as fast by replacing the plain {}-style objects with Url > class instances. > 2. Always put the same kinds of things in the same places. An array > of numbers should only ever have numbers; an array of objects should > always only have objects. If a FooBar object has a "foo" member, then > set this.foo to *something* in the constructor. > > It's really nice writing code in a loosely typed language. Most of > the time, these optimizations are not all that relevant, and when they > are, the odd exception is probably fine, if it's truly exceptional. > But when you really care about maximizing speed, that flexibility can > make it surprisingly tricky to track down all the deviations. > > I'm probably not going to stop using Vim to write code any time soon. > I'm probably never going to use Windows as my development environment. > Code completion sort of annoys me, and I've usually turned it off > when I had editors that did it. But I'm actually very excited about > TypeScript. > > It'd be a great idea to write up a TypeScript header file for the API > surface in Node. Then, we could automatically test for API > deviations, validate and flesh out our documentation, etc. Static > typing *does* confer some very relevant value. Typically it does so > at the cost of flexibility, but this brings a lot of the benefits to > JavaScript in an optional way, which is very powerful. > > Also, it's not reinventing the language. It is JavaScript, mostly. > Or JavaScript entirely, if you just write JS and have a separate > declaration file, but with the benefits of linting that does more than > whine about comma placement and indentation, and *actually finds > subtle errors* in your programs. > > There have been a lot of attempts to come up with ways to add type > hints and API-auto-documentation to JavaScript. (JSDoc, YUIDoc, > AS3/ES4, etc.) Most of those are not very compelling. The fact that > Microsoft is doing this, and building products on top of it (which > they will inevitably hope to make money on), is very encouraging. It > says to me that this is going to be a real thing with real developers > working on it, with budgets and timelines, and the whole bit. It's > somebody's job. > > > I had some suggestions that I passed along to the folks at Microsoft: > > 1. It'd be *amazing* if there was a way to automatically try to guess > at the best types, given a set of JavaScript code. Writing a > declaration file is insanely tedious. I don't want to do it, and > that's a blocker to adoption. I know that this is a hard problem, and > totally not what you'd expect in a first release, but hey, V8 is > guessing types pretty good, so it must be possible. That would make > me happy. > > 2. It'd be nice (as I think someone mentioned in this thread) to let > it put run-time type-checking into exposed functions at the API > surface. If this needed to be a dev flag or something, then that's > fine. I'd go ahead and let it in exported functions, though. We have > a lot of that code in Node, and it's tedious to write and maintain. >
Isaac, This belongs on your blog, no joke. I'm going to nag you until you do it. Rick > > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en