I'm not focus on the initialization time, but GC impact in large memory 
usage cases.
In the test case, I used 850MB memory, which is normal for a net server 
application, the GC takes 5*450ms and 2*3050ms periodically(every tens of 
seconds).
I think there should be some way to imporve it.
At least, users of node.js should be aware of this limitation. 

On Friday, November 9, 2012 6:21:18 AM UTC+8, Vyacheslav Egorov wrote:
>
> Pauses that follow initialization will actually become much smaller 
> (given that you disable idle notification that are abused by node). 
>
> Pauses during initialization of your test are irrelevant because your 
> allocation rate is not at the realistic level. 
>
> It is highly unlikely that your application does nothing but allocates 
> hundreds of megabytes per each request. 
>
>
> Vyacheslav Egorov 
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM, darcy <free...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > split the object to 4, but nothing changed. 
> > 
> > var obj_num = 5000000; 
> > var split = 4 
> > var fill = []; 
> > for (var s = split; s > 0; s--) { 
> >     fill[s]={}; 
> >     for (var i = obj_num/split; i > 0; i--) { 
> >         fill[s]["fill string*******************" + i] = "fill string" + 
> i; 
> >     }; 
> > } 
> > setInterval(function () { 
> >     fill[0] = "something" + Date.now(); 
> > }, 1); 
> > 
> > 
> >  7697696 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >  7700792 ms: Mark-sweep 849.5 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 450 ms (+ 
> 1630 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 267.949951 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7702867 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 439 ms (+ 
> 1633 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 266.983887 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7704963 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 441 ms (+ 
> 1639 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 272.429932 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7707052 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 438 ms (+ 
> 1639 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 269.601074 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7709138 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 439 ms (+ 
> 1635 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 267.798828 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7712207 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 3059 ms [idle 
> > notification: finalize idle round] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7715267 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 3050 ms [idle 
> > notification: finalize idle round] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7726200 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >  7737012 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >  7747821 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >  7758607 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >  7769409 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >  7772359 ms: Mark-sweep 849.5 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 451 ms (+ 
> 1639 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 268.382812 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7774432 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 439 ms (+ 
> 1631 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 269.125000 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7776518 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 441 ms (+ 
> 1633 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 269.224854 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7778604 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 440 ms (+ 
> 1635 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 268.859131 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7780690 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 441 ms (+ 
> 1633 ms 
> > in 9 steps since start of marking, biggest step 269.326904 ms) [idle 
> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7783746 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 3046 ms [idle 
> > notification: finalize idle round] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7786807 ms: Mark-sweep 849.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 3051 ms [idle 
> > notification: finalize idle round] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >  7797633 ms: Scavenge 850.4 (895.1) -> 849.4 (895.1) MB, 0 ms 
> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:33:51 PM UTC+8, Vyacheslav Egorov 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> You are using object representation that is not really GC friendly. 
> >> 
> >> Split you array into pieces (build B-tree like data structure) and you 
> >> will see GC pauses that are smaller by orders of magnitude. 
> >> Vyacheslav Egorov 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:35 AM, darcy <free...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >> > 
> >> > I've did a test for performance issues caused by GC and memory 
> >> > consumption. 
> >> > My test run on linux, node v0.8.5 
> >> > 
> >> > the code: 
> >> >> 
> >> >> var obj_num = 5000000; 
> >> >> 
> >> >> var fill = {} 
> >> >> 
> >> >> for (var i = obj_num; i >= 0; i--) { 
> >> >> 
> >> >>     fill["fill string*******************" + i] = "fill string" + i; 
> >> >> 
> >> >> }; 
> >> >> 
> >> >> setInterval(function () { 
> >> >> 
> >> >>     fill[0] = "something" + Date.now(); 
> >> >> 
> >> >> }, 1); 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > if run by "node --trace_gc gc_test.js", the output is: 
> >> > 
> >> >  9407594 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9418468 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9429360 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9440165 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9450968 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9453661 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 484 ms (+ 
> >> > 1385 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of m 
> >> > arking, biggest step 1152.330811 ms) [idle notification: finalize 
> >> > incremental] [GC in old space requeste 
> >> > d]. 
> >> >  9455521 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 470 ms (+ 
> >> > 1388 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of m 
> >> > arking, biggest step 1148.824219 ms) [idle notification: finalize 
> >> > incremental] [GC in old space requeste 
> >> > d]. 
> >> >  9457355 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 463 ms (+ 
> >> > 1360 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of m 
> >> > arking, biggest step 1132.174072 ms) [idle notification: finalize 
> >> > incremental] [GC in old space requeste 
> >> > d]. 
> >> >  9459202 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 463 ms (+ 
> >> > 1372 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of m 
> >> > arking, biggest step 1139.920898 ms) [idle notification: finalize 
> >> > incremental] [GC in old space requeste 
> >> > d]. 
> >> >  9461050 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 467 ms (+ 
> >> > 1371 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of m 
> >> > arking, biggest step 1136.500977 ms) [idle notification: finalize 
> >> > incremental] [GC in old space requeste 
> >> > d]. 
> >> >  9464581 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 3521 ms 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize idle rou 
> >> > nd] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9468118 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 3527 ms 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize idle rou 
> >> > nd] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9478934 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9489861 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9500980 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9511772 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9522651 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9524948 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 479 ms (+ 
> >> > 1350 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1121.382812 ms) [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9526773 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 462 ms (+ 
> >> > 1361 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1132.158936 ms) [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9528606 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 468 ms (+ 
> >> > 1353 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1121.354980 ms) [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9530459 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 467 ms (+ 
> >> > 1374 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1143.323975 ms) [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9532307 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 467 ms (+ 
> >> > 1370 ms 
> >> > in 3 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1139.680908 ms) [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9535905 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 3587 ms 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize idle round] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9539484 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 3569 ms 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize idle round] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9550287 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9561110 ms: Scavenge 849.0 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> > 
> >> > it indicated that gc used several seconds every tens of seconds. As 
> you 
> >> > know, In this period no user code is executed, and the cpu usage is 
> >> > about 
> >> > 100%. 
> >> > 
> >> > if run by "node --trace_gc --nouse_idle_notification gc_test.js", the 
> >> > output 
> >> > is like this: 
> >> > 
> >> >  9284693 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9306457 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9328158 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9349766 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9371736 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9393432 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9415037 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9436695 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  9458344 ms: Scavenge 850.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC] 
> >> > 
> >> > No heavy gc is executed in 9458344ms, I didn't do any longer test. 
> >> > 
> >> > if run by "node --trace_gc --nouse_idle_notification 
> >> > --max_old_space_size=500 gc_test.js", we can see in the log of 
> previous 
> >> > case, user code needs more than 500MB. the output is like this: 
> >> > 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 76 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Postponing speeding up marking until marking starts 
> >> >    82169 ms: Mark-sweep 537.8 (577.0) -> 537.8 (578.0) MB, 705 ms (+ 
> 888 
> >> > ms 
> >> > in 10 steps since start of m 
> >> > arking, biggest step 664.453857 ms) [StackGuard GC request] [GC in 
> old 
> >> > space 
> >> > requested]. 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 3 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 6 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 10 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Speed up marking because marker was not keeping up 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 15 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Speed up marking because marker was not keeping up 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 22 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Speed up marking because marker was not keeping up 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 31 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Speed up marking because marker was not keeping up 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 42 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Speed up marking because marker was not keeping up 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 57 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Speed up marking because marker was not keeping up 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 76 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Postponing speeding up marking until marking starts 
> >> >    83766 ms: Mark-sweep 538.6 (578.0) -> 538.6 (579.0) MB, 706 ms (+ 
> 882 
> >> > ms 
> >> > in 10 steps since start of marking, biggest step 646.981934 ms) 
> >> > [StackGuard 
> >> > GC request] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> > Speed up marking because of low space left 
> >> > Marking speed increased to 3 
> >> > 
> >> > It indicated that the program is always busy with GC, and with cpu 
> usage 
> >> > 100%, meanwhile there's little chance to execute user code. Default 
> >> > max_old_space_size is about 1900MB, so if user code needs more memory 
> >> > than 
> >> > this, will be blocked by gc. 
> >> > 
> >> > So, the impact of --nouse_idle_notification is more than acceptable, 
> >> > with a 
> >> > block to program for several seconds every tens of seconds. I read 
> the 
> >> > relative source code of node and v8, and found this: 
> >> > 
> >> > // v8, heap.cc 
> >> > bool Heap::IdleNotification(int hint) { 
> >> >   // Hints greater than this value indicate that 
> >> >   // the embedder is requesting a lot of GC work. 
> >> >   const int kMaxHint = 1000; 
> >> >   // Minimal hint that allows to do full GC. 
> >> >   const int kMinHintForFullGC = 100; 
> >> > 
> >> >   ... 
> >> > 
> >> >     if (remaining_mark_sweeps <= 2 && hint >= kMinHintForFullGC) { 
> >> >       CollectAllGarbage(kReduceMemoryFootprintMask, 
> >> >                         "idle notification: finalize idle round"); 
> >> >     } else { 
> >> >       incremental_marking()->Start(); 
> >> >     } 
> >> > } 
> >> > 
> >> > because there's "idle notification: finalize idle round" in the log, 
> and 
> >> > there's only one apperance in v8 src, so that CollectAllGarbage() is 
> >> > called 
> >> > in IdleNotification. Pay attention to the param "hint", node called 
> >> > V8::IdleNotification() with default param value 1000, which is the 
> max, 
> >> > means most aggressive. I changed the value to 1: 
> >> > 
> >> > // in node.cc 
> >> > static void Idle(uv_idle_t* watcher, int status) { 
> >> >   assert((uv_idle_t*) watcher == &gc_idle); 
> >> > 
> >> >   if (V8::IdleNotification(1)) { 
> >> >     uv_idle_stop(&gc_idle); 
> >> >     StopGCTimer(); 
> >> >   } 
> >> > } 
> >> > 
> >> > rebuild node and run by "node --trace_gc gc_test.js", the output is: 
> >> > 
> >> >  7443012 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7453843 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7464650 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7475521 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7486301 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7489050 ms: Mark-sweep 848.2 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 484 ms (+ 
> >> > 1375 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1140.266113 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7490932 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 491 ms (+ 
> >> > 1387 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1148.691895 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7492810 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 488 ms (+ 
> >> > 1386 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1149.963135 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7494681 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 482 ms (+ 
> >> > 1385 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1150.884033 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7496534 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 479 ms (+ 
> >> > 1370 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1136.897949 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7498415 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 485 ms (+ 
> >> > 1392 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1153.990967 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7500279 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 473 ms (+ 
> >> > 1386 ms 
> >> > in 70 steps since start of marking, biggest step 1149.422119 ms) 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize incremental] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  7511092 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7521936 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> >  7532793 ms: Scavenge 849.1 (894.0) -> 848.1 (894.0) MB, 0 ms 
> >> > [Runtime::PerformGC]. 
> >> > 
> >> > In contrast with the default value version, there's no: 
> >> > 
> >> >  9464581 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 3521 ms 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize idle rou 
> >> > nd] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> >  9468118 ms: Mark-sweep 848.1 (894.0) -> 848.0 (894.0) MB, 3527 ms 
> [idle 
> >> > notification: finalize idle rou 
> >> > nd] [GC in old space requested]. 
> >> > 
> >> > saved a lot of time. but [idle notification: finalize incremental] is 
> >> > still 
> >> > a problem, and I've not find a simple way to change it. 
> >> > 
> >> > In summary: 
> >> > 1. --nouse_idle_notification is useful, but is there any side effect? 
> >> > 2. If there's not enough for program, node will not crash, but 
> >> > continuously 
> >> > busy with GC. 
> >> > 3. V8::IdleNotification(1) seems to be better for node, please any 
> >> > developer 
> >> > pay attention to it. 
> >> > 
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