tl;dr Skimming over this thread I don't see anyone jumping on listas'/austin's bandwagon. I, for one, certainly agree with Isaac's arguments. I also think he has been very nice in putting in so much effort in replying to such a stupid concern.
In short, +1 for Isaac's arguments. On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Austin William Wright < diamondma...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:04:52 PM UTC-7, Isaac Schlueter wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Austin William Wright >> <diamon...@users.**sourceforge.net> wrote: >> > ... >> >> Look, here's the bottom: The module system is locked. We're not >> interested in changing it. The source is open, so you can go nuts on >> it if you'd like. Your feelings about node's module system are rare, >> and not shared by the development team, or a significant fraction of >> users. >> >> We don't destabilize node-core for vocal minorities. >> > > Absolutely not: If something is wrong, you change it and increment the > major version number. That's not "destabilizing" in any sense of the word, > that's improving functionality, and telling people that you broke > reverse compatibility in doing so. > > There's nothing "vocal minorities" about cross-platform coding. Most > people won't use 'crypto'. Does that make them a vocal minority? Most > people won't use 'domain'. Does that make them a vocal minority? Most > people won't be affected by any of the bugs being filed from now on, but we > still regard those as important. But ill-defined require() is just as much > a bug as any of those. > > The story of the growth of Node.js is getting support and functionality > out for as many people as possible. You don't regard if it's going to be a > "majority" or not, you regard if it's *profitable at the margin*. > > >> > Right now I'm stuck at convincing people that pragmatism isn't good. >> >> That's confusing. Why are you here if you don't think pragmatism is a >> good thing? Node is all about pragmatism. >> > > When you say "pragmatism" I hear "I don't understand the the system works > together well enough to understand the consequences of my actions." That > there are no facts, no fixed laws of logic, no certainty, no objectivity. > It is the antithesis of semantics and objectivity. And it is not an > appropriate design strategy for any software system. > > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to nodejs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to nodejs+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en
