Don't misunderstand. I absolutely agree that we need high-level APIs and conventions and the such for people who just want to solve a well-known problem. I just don't think node-core is the place for that.
I'm a pretty crazy hacker and am even implementing git in javascript, but I have never in my many years as a linux user, built my own linux desktop from scratch. I usually use ubuntu or one of the variants. When I'm feeling really adventurous, I use arch linux. Don't think of node.js as a high-level framework for web development and you won't be wishing it had high-level APIs to fit your perception. Instead understand what node is and look for the higher-level abstraction elsewhere. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Dennis Leukhin <[email protected]> wrote: > I got your point, Tim. Maybe in the future when the current API is > stable, then we can think about a high-level API. Anyway high level -- will > be cool feature. I hope someone's can overpower it. It's will be cool for > user apps. > > понедельник, 30 сентября 2013 г. пользователь Tim Caswell писал: > >> This is equivalent to asking Linus to bundle a graphical desktop >> environment with the linux kernel so that there is one common front-end >> that everyone uses and newbies don't have to build their own linux desktop >> from scratch. >> >> The difference between node and linux is that there are many competing >> linux distributions while node's ecosystem is mostly a massive unstructured >> collection of modules. >> >> What you're looking for is the Ubuntu of node. I've always said that >> something like this would be great for the community, but after years we're >> still using npm and basically a polite anarchy with regards to modules. >> >> There are companies like Strong Loop that are trying to fill this gap, >> and I wish them all the luck. But as a library developer, I like it that I >> can just write a node.js module and there are very few requirements to >> publishing. >> >> Node core will never constrain it's users to a specific vertical (like >> say web applications) because it's use is so much broader than that and >> even with a limited scope such as web development there are many variations >> and different competing requirements people have. >> >> I've used linux on everything from 64-core servers to tiny $10 mips based >> routers with only 4 mb of ram. >> >> Node is the kernel of JavaScript development. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Dennis Leukhin <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hello, guys. I want to express my opinion, I know that it does not weigh >>> much, but even more I want to hear yours. >>> >>> Node.js very important technology now. But it's needed higher level api. >>> >>> All newcomers will fall in asynchronous black hole. At now many >>> frameworks was created (it's hard to choose. Node.js developer must know >>> all these frameworks to find job? or node.js created by hackers for >>> hackers?) >>> Recently get the opportunity to use generators. It's cool, but look how >>> many libs was created to work with it: suspend, co, genny, gen-run. galaxy, >>> yieldable and etc. >>> What newcomer have to choose, what to use? >>> Clustering and pub/sub etc.. -- it's must be in core by high-level API. >>> >>> >>> What you guys think? 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