In the real world it's just better to have your dependents not fail to install, you can't actually rely on the maintainers doing another publish after you break them. In the end, the less packages that fail to install from npm the better and whatever solution results in the least number of un-installable packages sitting in the registry is the one we should go with.
-Mikeal On Dec 19, 2013, at 2:59PM, Alex Kocharin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why is it a bad thing? > > If someone wants to receive your update, he'll specify a version range and an > update will be installed automatically. > > If someone want to rely specifically on broken version and locked it, they > kinda asked for it. > > Well yeah, unpublishing is bad except for very few cases where public data is > leaked. But when you do that, don't republish the same version ever again. > It'll mess up things. I like to see how npm v1.3.19 is missing from registry > for example. > > > 20.12.2013, 02:27, "Mikeal Rogers" <[email protected]>: >> That leaves all of the other packaged already published and relying on a >> specific version broken. >> >> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:46AM, Dean Landolt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Even in that case it would still seem better to allow unpublish and bump >>> the version number, right? >>> >>> Immutability (plus unpublish) would make the npm registery an even better >>> place. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Mikeal Rogers <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> There have also been security issues where old packages were shipped with >>> sensitive information that needed to be ripped out. >>> >>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 5:07PM, Forrest L Norvell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree that packages should rarely be changed, but in practice if there's >>>> a major bug or the packaging gets totally botched (which has happened to >>>> me a few ties), it's good to have the ability to fix the problem in-place. >>>> I'm less enamored on the possibility of removing packages once they've >>>> been published. That seems like it's almost always a bad idea, and I would >>>> be in favor of altering the registry to disallow it. >>>> >>>> F >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Tim Caswell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> If you want this level of static dependencies you can check in your deps >>>> into node_modules in your git tree or use git submodules in there. Git >>>> does guarantee that the thing you point to can't be changed because the >>>> hash *is* the hash of the content. If anything changes, the hash changes. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Brian Lalor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Richard Marr <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm working on an app where security is an issue, and among the (many) >>>>> things that I'm frothingly paranoid about is the possibility of malicious >>>>> (or more likely just untested) code somehow getting into our app, even >>>>> though we're using shrink-wrapped versions. It means we'll have to be >>>>> much more careful with the way we proxy the npm registry. >>>> >>>> I’d like to know this, as well. One of the guarantees made by the Maven >>>> central repository is that artifacts (packages) can check in, but they can >>>> never check out. I frankly don’t think NPM provides this type of >>>> assurance, but it should. 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