In the beginning was the word and the word was with g*d and the word was g*d
untsoweiter
In the beginning the continuum was the continuum was the continuum
untsoweiter
In the beginning was the beginning beginning beginning untsoweiter
...
El mezzo camin de nostro vita is not the same as in the middle of the
course of our lives
Why bother? Because el mezzo camin... is not the same as in the middle of
the... Untsoweiter
...
Why is peace not the same as vrede? Because the initiating of the running
code "peace" started at a different time than the initiating of the
coagulated running code "vrede"?
Why do languages live? Because they rub each other's backs.
In the beginning of this text there is the beginning of this text which is
not the same as the beginning of this text in the beginning of this text
untsoweiter
Scale matters, position matters, division matters, time matters. Even if
time is a human illusion, time matters. Literally. (In Dutch you can only
say "doet er toe", you can't make the "matter" link,- does that mean
anything? Sure, it's a comment on the configuration as we are having it.)
On what basis are you going to have a protocol, at which "level" of the
continuum, the line indicating where traversals can be made?
What does the http:// protocol actually do? Nothing. It observes the flow of
data. Does it change the flow of data? Is it not observerving the flow of
data? Does it not interfere with the flow of data? Do we not bleed when
you...
Observance comes at a cost. The cost is called the digital divide. It looses
data while cutting them. Why loss? Because you are cutting, changing
positions of non-existent entities, you are making entities, objects. You're
quantum leaping from wave to particles. Wehen making the cut, you gotta
consider where you're going to make it, but you'll always lose. There's no
red and green wire to choose from, it's only one wire, , the bomb will
always explode in your face...
The digital revolution is about refining the grid but you cannot ungrid the
grid. The point of no return is when matter itself says to you "hi, you're
cutting me". At that moment you already are within the grid, you have made
the choice (to cut or not to cut, that one).
Redemption? Cut again.
Why not the agreement of "universal language" at the xml-level? Would there
be any difference where you draw the line? As things are there is a plethora
of reasons to draw the starting line of "namespaces" at the xml level
- humans can read/write it
- machines can read/write it
- business needs it
If not, what are you going to measure? Below? The remainders of analog
noise? Sure there is "meaning" left in analog noise. Connect to the
"noise"of Ultra Short Frequency and you will hear it. Do sea waves mean
something? Sure, why not. Where are you going to establish a art://
protocol? One that makes agreements on the meaning of seawaves? On the cries
of the doves? Who will understand it? who will be able to read/write to it?
Why agree at all? Because then you can start garbaging, recycling the
losses.
Or: not at all, let it swing, hang loose, disagree, object, phantom, pray,
obsess, incorporate, mislead, defy, acknowledge, breath, die,
resurrect,verb...
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens flexpre.Ganoh rnBcc:
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> Verzonden: zondag 30 april 2006 12:54
> Aan: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Onderwerp: software art
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> me llamo untza otsaola aldsa el me gusta el me imagino que te
> gustan a sofaa why we shouldlearn several languages? why not
> rather one big one instead.. now with these different
> languages expressing more or less the same is f?cking
> rendundant.. a global utopian language project would be to oh
> i already abort the sentence but to express the same thing in
> several languages doesn't add much to knowledge.. it's what
> we call boring and tedious and to enjoy it you have to relate
> to the esthetic of the language for immediate joy to keep you
> going.. because in the end nothing new is learned except a
> language that expresses the same.. so this aborted project
> could document every language in the world and extract
> interesting structures to incorporate in a deep and complex
> global language.. oh this is just a perspective because in
> reality we only have one language and in a way that's what
> i'm saying.. and which already has this complexity. on the
> same ground it's curious that we're able to not communicate
> to each other.. that two languages not to understand each
> other.. well i think it's on the surface.. as is survival of
> the surfacest.. which also means interface.. two apples are
> alike but don't know each other though we sort of think
> they're in relation.. they're the same breed of course.. here
> there's a general travesty.. a communication link would have
> to go down the root and up again another trail.. the lateral
> is an illusion or a cut-up.. for instance this long line
> where each word is different if you view them as apples they
> are all different but all words and to connect them you have
> to expand the trail.. not only to connect but to give meaning
> of course as the nourishment comes from the root.. well
> there's the sun finally and primerly as a root.. language
> might be the most prolific and promiscuous thing.. everything
> seem to connect to each other.. so in a way it reaches back..
> the collapse isn't that great.. even more with data though
> there are checksum which means that not everything can be
> everything.. well in this new protocol everything can be
> everything.. a text file can be played as music.. or viewed
> as movie.. it's inclusive as html.. errors are just ignored..
> nothing throws up.. everything is allowed.. we'd name it an
> art protocol.. art://.. artificial rendered text protocol
> maybe.. different applications.. text sound animation will
> render the art://object differently.. maybe it's an
> extention.. file type.. browser which means perception..
> presentation layer.. well the file type defines how it's to
> be read which is what we want to avoid..
> let's say file.art.. it would mean this file is to be
> rendered in any application not creating an error or the
> error is part of the file..
> which is the degenerate solution.. and then making .art
> applications for rendering data.. ohwell much is noise..
> perverse information.. it shouldn't be difficult since the
> main feat is to ignore errors..
> software art generally.. or art generally as accepting.. using..
> ignoring errors where other domains threw them up.. here we
> have the anarchy of data.. all protocol levels are alike..
> it's all data..
> rendered at your will.. if i knew more programming i'd do
> something like this.. not a special purpose app.. it takes
> any data.. links to the above.. of global language.. and then
> with same argument.. we already have it.. which saves a lot
> of work.. the neurons don't care.. like the sea.. throw
> anything in.. it will play with it with fluidity.. and
> gravitation.. here then we see gravitation more clearly.. as
> in the big tanks of proton decay finally.. the application is
> inert.. which means everything is reflected.. very good.. now
> i'll go do my toilet and then my back and neck exercises..
> the back is broken in small bits which makes it flexible but
> then these errors.. pain receptors within the application..
> without pain we wouldn't feedback and develop.. which maybe
> means that what's without pain is also the most primordial..
> and at the same time.. pain goes all the way back to it, down
> the spine, it's all broken up, which made us upright
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