jens-skribble opened a new issue, #2831:
URL: https://github.com/apache/apisix-ingress-controller/issues/2831

   ### Description
   
   ## Summary
   
   Bring APISIX's native **`secrets`** secret-manager resource (Vault / AWS / 
GCP) into
   the controller's resource model, so a `secrets` manager can be **declared 
through the
   controller** and becomes part of the full-config snapshot ADC pushes. That 
makes
   `$secret://<manager>/<id>/...` references usable on controller-managed 
resources
   (routes, plugin configs, consumers, SSL, `GatewayProxy`), instead of the 
value having
   to exist as a plaintext Kubernetes Secret.
   
   Follow-up to #2821 (the standalone sync deadlock). As discussed there, the 
supported
   answer isn't out-of-band registration — it's making `secrets` a first-class 
resource
   the controller owns and syncs. This issue is the design discussion for that.
   
   ## Motivation / use case
   
   We want to reference secrets from plugin config via APISIX's native 
`$secret://`
   indirection rather than materializing the value into the config. Concrete 
case:
   central, HA-safe rotation of the `openid-connect` **session/cookie secret** 
via Vault —
   
   ```yaml
   # today (works, but the value lives in the data-plane env / a k8s Secret):
   session:
     secret: "$env://APISIX_SESSION_SECRET"
   
   # what we'd like — resolved from a Vault secret manager, rotated centrally:
   session:
     secret: "$secret://vault/oidc/oidc/session_secret"
   ```
   
   APISIX itself already resolves `$secret://vault/...` in API-driven 
standalone mode
   (verified in #2821). The only missing piece is a controller-side way to 
declare the
   backing `secrets` manager.
   
   ## Why not `secretRef`
   
   `secretRef` reads a Kubernetes Secret and injects the **plaintext value** 
into the
   pushed config — a different mechanism. It doesn't give APISIX's native 
`$secret://`
   indirection, where the data plane fetches from Vault/AWS/GCP at request time 
and the
   secret material never has to live in the k8s config or the ADC snapshot. 
Both are
   useful; this request is specifically about the native `secrets` managers.
   
   ## Proposed direction (for discussion)
   
   Add `secrets` to the control-plane resource model so it's part of the 
snapshot. Open
   questions we'd love maintainer input on:
   
   1. **Where to declare it.** Two shapes we can see:
      - a `secrets` list on **`GatewayProxy`** (alongside `pluginMetadata`) — 
simple, one
        place, naturally scoped to the gateway the controller drives; or
      - a dedicated **CRD** (e.g. `ApisixSecret` / `SecretManager`) translating 
to APISIX's
        `secrets` resource — more flexible, referenceable across namespaces, 
its own
        lifecycle/status.
   
   2. **Backends.** APISIX supports `vault`, `aws`, and `gcp` managers — mirror 
those
      fields (`uri`, `prefix`, auth, etc.).
   
   3. **Manager credentials should not be inline plaintext.** The Vault token / 
AWS / GCP
      credentials the manager needs should be sourceable from a Kubernetes 
Secret via a
      `valueFrom: { secretKeyRef: ... }` pattern — the same shape the chart 
already uses
      for `GatewayProxy` `adminKey.valueFrom`. (This is the one place 
`secretRef`-style
      k8s-Secret reading is still needed — to bootstrap the manager's own auth.)
   
   4. **Referencing.** Confirm the reference syntax works from the plugin 
configs we care
      about (`ApisixPluginConfig` / `ApisixRoute` plugins, `openid-connect` 
`session.secret`,
      and ideally `ApisixConsumer` / SSL).
   
   5. **Ownership semantics.** Once the controller owns `secrets`, a manager 
registered out
      of band is (correctly) removed on the next full sync — that's expected 
and fine; it's
      the flip side of #2821 and we're not asking for out-of-band to be 
supported.
   
   


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