codeconsole commented on PR #16165:
URL: https://github.com/apache/grails-core/pull/16165#issuecomment-5332487843

   ### Indy Whiplash? 
   
   I agree with this change, but I wonder if we should consider turning indy on 
in the final release of 8?    I think it is counter intuitive to go against 
Groovy defaults and turn it opposite to normal compiler behavior.  At the very 
least we should consider not changing downstream plugin behavior and perhaps 
enforce plugins indy true?   
   
   The following should be fully understood prior to 8.0.0:
   1. Benchmark for an app with Grails compiled indy false, plugins false, and 
app false.  (Current 8 defaults)
   2. Benchmark for an app with Grails compiled indy true, plugins false, and 
app true.
   3. Benchmark for an app with Grails compiled indy true, plugins true, and 
app false.  (Unknown?)
   4. Benchmark for an app with Grails compiled indy true, plugins true,  and 
app true (default Groovy behavior)
   
   Current state of Grails 8
   
   indy OFF (29): `grails-cache, grails-fields, grails-geb, grails-mail, 
grails-redis, grails-scaffolding,
     grails-views-gson, grails-views-markup, grails-undertow/plugin,
     grails-gsp/{plugin,grails-layout,grails-sitemesh3}, 
grails-data-hibernate5/{grails-plugin,dbmigration},
     grails-data-hibernate7/{grails-plugin,dbmigration}, 
grails-data-mongodb/grails-plugin,
     grails-data-graphql/plugin,` all 11 `grails-spring-security/*` plugin 
modules.
   
     indy ON (17, Groovy 5 default): `grails-core, grails-controllers, 
grails-domain-class,
     grails-url-mappings, grails-interceptors, grails-services, 
grails-databinding, grails-converters,
     grails-codecs, grails-mimetypes, grails-i18n, grails-datasource, 
grails-micronaut,
     grails-rest-transforms, grails-async/plugin, grails-events/plugin, 
grails-data-neo4j/grails-plugin`.


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