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ASF GitHub Bot commented on GROOVY-12223:
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daniellansun commented on PR #2755:
URL: https://github.com/apache/groovy/pull/2755#issuecomment-5182105563

   @paulk-asert  Thanks for capturing this — both points are real and we’ve 
addressed them in the current code.
   
   ### 1. Soft-fail under native image
   
   Agreed that `UnsupportedFeatureError` extends `Error` directly and was not 
covered by `LinkageError`.
   
   `tryDefineNestmate` now soft-fails that case by **class name** 
(`com.oracle.svm.core.jdk.UnsupportedFeatureError`) with no GraalVM compile 
dependency, and rethrows other `Error`s. The shared path is 
`softFailOrRethrow(Error)`.
   
   ### 2. Kill switch baked in at build time
   
   Agreed. The old `static final HIDDEN_CLASSES_DISABLED` snapshot was unsafe 
if the class is initialized at native-image build time.
   
   We removed that field. **`isEnabled()` is evaluated on each call** (class 
definition is not a hot path):
   
   - returns `false` when `org.graalvm.nativeimage.imagecode=runtime` (skip 
define entirely);
   - otherwise honours `-Dgroovy.hidden.classes.disable=true` at **run** time.
   
   So native users get a working escape hatch, and the soft-fail on 
`UnsupportedFeatureError` is belt-and-braces if something still attempts define.
   
   Happy to adjust further if you hit a concrete native path that still reaches 
`HiddenClassDefiner` unexpectedly.
   




> Introduce hidden class support
> ------------------------------
>
>                 Key: GROOVY-12223
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GROOVY-12223
>             Project: Groovy
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Daniel Sun
>            Priority: Major
>
> h2. Background
> Groovy generates many short-lived synthetic classes at runtime, including:
> * map/interface proxies ({{ProxyGeneratorAdapter}})
> * reflection dispatch helpers ({{Reflector}} / {{ReflectorLoader}})
> * per-class meta-method artifacts ({{ClassLoaderForClassArtifacts}})
> Today these are defined with {{ClassLoader#defineClass}} as ordinary *named* 
> classes. That has three practical downsides:
> # *Name pollution* — the synthetic types are discoverable via 
> {{Class.forName}} / {{ClassLoader#loadClass}}.
> # *Metaspace pressure* — their lifetime is tied to the defining class loader; 
> long-running applications that generate many artifacts retain them until the 
> loader itself is collected.
> # *Access friction* — without nest membership, generated code cannot share 
> private access with the host class the way a true nestmate can.
> JDK 15 introduced *hidden classes* ([JEP 371|https://openjdk.org/jeps/371]): 
> classes defined through {{Lookup#defineHiddenClass}} that are 
> non-discoverable by name, may join an access-control nest ({{NESTMATE}}), and 
> may be unloaded independently of the defining loader when not marked 
> {{STRONG}}.
> Groovy 6 requires JDK 17+, so the API is always present on supported runtimes.
> h2. Proposal
> Centralise hidden-class definition behind a single utility and prefer it for 
> the dynamic class-generation sites listed above, with a transparent fallback 
> to the existing {{ClassLoader#defineClass}} path.
> h3. New API
> {{org.apache.groovy.util.HiddenClassDefiner}} — the only call-site that 
> invokes {{Lookup#defineHiddenClass}}:
> * {{defineHiddenClass(lookup, bytes, initialize, nestmate, strong)}} — full 
> control
> * {{defineNestmateClass(lookup, bytes, initialize)}} — nestmate + weak 
> lifecycle (default for proxies / reflectors / artifacts)
> * {{defineStrongHiddenClass(lookup, bytes, initialize)}} — non-discoverable, 
> loader-tied lifetime
> * helpers: {{privateLookupIn(hostClass)}}, {{findConstructor(hiddenClass, 
> ...parameterTypes)}}
> Kill-switch (evaluated once at class-init for hot-path cost):
> {noformat}
> -Dgroovy.hidden.classes.disable=true
> {noformat}
> When disabled (or when private lookup / definition fails), callers fall back 
> to defining a normal visible class.
> h3. Integration points
> || Site || Nest host || Preferred options || Fallback ||
> | {{ClassLoaderForClassArtifacts#define}} | target (klazz) | nestmate, weak | 
> {{ClassLoader#defineClass}} + protection domain |
> | {{ProxyGeneratorAdapter}} | non-{{Object}} superclass if present; else 
> {{ProxyGeneratorAdapter}} | nestmate, weak | {{InnerLoader#defineClass}} |
> | {{ReflectorLoader#defineClass}} | {{Reflector}} | nestmate, weak | 
> {{ClassLoader#defineClass}} + protection domain |
> Behaviour for callers of these generators is unchanged: proxies still 
> implement the requested interfaces, reflectors still dispatch, artifacts 
> still construct. The only observable differences when the hidden path 
> succeeds are the synthetic name form (contains {{/}}) and {{Class#isHidden() 
> == true}}.
> h2. Benefits
> * Non-discoverable synthetic types (cleaner class-space / tooling view).
> * Nestmate private access where the nest host can be opened for private 
> lookup.
> * Eager unloading of weak hidden classes reduces long-run metaspace retention 
> for short-lived proxies and artifacts.
> * One policy / upgrade point if future JDKs add further 
> {{Lookup.ClassOption}} values.
> h2. Compatibility
> * Default-on when the JVM can obtain a full-privilege lookup for the chosen 
> nest host; silent fallback otherwise (e.g. sealed / unopened module packages).
> * Opt-out: {{-Dgroovy.hidden.classes.disable=true}}.
> * No public language-surface change; no change to successful proxy / 
> reflector / artifact *behaviour*, only to how the {{Class}} is defined.



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