On Wednesday, 26 May 2021 5:17:18 PM AEST John Hubbard wrote: > On 5/25/21 4:51 AM, Balbir Singh wrote: > ... > > >> How beneficial is this code to nouveau users? I see that it permits a > >> part of OpenCL to be implemented, but how useful/important is this in > >> the real world? > > > > That is a very good question! I've not reviewed the code, but a sample > > program with the described use case would make things easy to parse. > > I suspect that is not easy to build at the moment? > > The cover letter says this: > > This has been tested with upstream Mesa 21.1.0 and a simple OpenCL program > which checks that GPU atomic accesses to system memory are atomic. Without > this series the test fails as there is no way of write-protecting the page > mapping which results in the device clobbering CPU writes. For reference > the test is available at https://ozlabs.org/~apopple/opencl_svm_atomics/ > > Further testing has been performed by adding support for testing exclusive > access to the hmm-tests kselftests. > > ...so that seems to cover the "sample program" request, at least.
It is also sufficiently easy to build, assuming of course you have the appropriate Mesa/LLVM/OpenCL libraries installed :-) If you are interested I have some scripts which may help with building Mesa, etc. Not that that is especially hard either, it's just there are a couple of different dependencies required. > > I wonder how we co-ordinate all the work the mm is doing, page migration, > > reclaim with device exclusive access? Do we have any numbers for the worst > > case page fault latency when something is marked away for exclusive > > access? > > CPU page fault latency is approximately "terrible", if a page is resident on > the GPU. We have to spin up a DMA engine on the GPU and have it copy the > page over the PCIe bus, after all. Although for clarity that describes latency for CPU faults to device private pages which are always resident on the GPU. A CPU fault to a page being exclusively accessed will be slightly less terrible as it only requires the GPU MMU/TLB mappings to be taken down in much the same as for any other MMU notifier callback as the page is mapped by the GPU rather than resident there. > > I presume for now this is anonymous memory only? SWP_DEVICE_EXCLUSIVE > > would > > Yes, for now. > > > only impact the address space of programs using the GPU. Should the > > exclusively marked range live in the unreclaimable list and recycled back > > to active/in-active to account for the fact that > > > > 1. It is not reclaimable and reclaim will only hurt via page faults? > > 2. It ages the page correctly or at-least allows for that possibility when > > the> > > page is used by the GPU. > > I'm not sure that that is *necessarily* something we can conclude. It > depends upon access patterns of each program. For example, a "reduction" > parallel program sends over lots of data to the GPU, and only a tiny bit of > (reduced!) data comes back to the CPU. In that case, freeing the physical > page on the CPU is actually the best decision for the OS to make (if the OS > is sufficiently prescient). > > thanks, _______________________________________________ Nouveau mailing list Nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/nouveau
