On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 7:35 PM Linux regression tracking (Thorsten
Leemhuis) <regressi...@leemhuis.info> wrote:
>
> On 08.02.23 09:48, Chris Clayton wrote:
> >
> > I'm assuming  that we are not going to see a fix for this regression before 
> > 6.2 is released.
>
> Yeah, looks like it. That's unfortunate, but happens. But there is still
> time to fix it and there is one thing I wonder:
>
> Did any of the nouveau developers look at the netconsole captures Chris
> posted more than a week ago to check if they somehow help to track down
> the root of this problem?
>

I did now and I can't spot anything. I think at this point it would
make sense to dump the active tasks/threads via sqsrq keys to see if
any is in a weird state preventing the machine from shutting down.

> Ciao, Thorsten (wearing his 'the Linux kernel's regression tracker' hat)
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>
> > Consequently, I've
> > implemented a (very simple) workaround. All that happens is that in the 
> > (sysv) init script that starts and stops SDDM,
> > the nouveau module is removed once SDDM is stopped. With that in place, my 
> > system no longer freezes on reboot or poweroff.
> >
> > Let me know if I can provide any additional diagnostics although, with the 
> > problem seemingly occurring so late in the
> > shutdown process, I may need help on how to go about capturing.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On 02/02/2023 20:45, Chris Clayton wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/02/2023 13:51, Chris Clayton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 30/01/2023 23:27, Ben Skeggs wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 09:09, Chris Clayton <chris2...@googlemail.com> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 30/01/2023 20:19, Chris Clayton wrote:
> >>>>>> Thanks, Ben.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is a complete shot-in-the-dark, as I don't see this behaviour on
> >>>>>>> *any* of my boards.  Could you try the attached patch please?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Unfortunately, the patch made no difference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've been looking at how the graphics on my laptop is set up, and have 
> >>>>>> a bit of a worry about whether the firmware might
> >>>>>> be playing a part in this problem. In order to offload video decoding 
> >>>>>> to the NVidia TU117 GPU, it seems the scrubber
> >>>>>> firmware must be available, but as far as I know,that has not been 
> >>>>>> released by NVidia. To get it to work, I followed
> >>>>>> what ubuntu have done and the scrubber in 
> >>>>>> /lib/firmware/nvidia/tu117/nvdec/ is a symlink to
> >>>>>> ../../tu116/nvdev/scrubber.bin. That, of course, means that some of 
> >>>>>> the firmware loaded is for a different card is being
> >>>>>> loaded. I note that processing related to firmware is being changed in 
> >>>>>> the patch. Might my set up be at the root of my
> >>>>>> problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll have a fiddle an see what I can work out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Chris
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Ben.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, my fiddling has got my system rebooting and shutting down 
> >>>>> successfully again. I found that if I delete the symlink
> >>>>> to the scrubber firmware, reboot and shutdown work again. There are 
> >>>>> however, a number of other files in the tu117
> >>>>> firmware directory tree that that are symlinks to actual files in its 
> >>>>> tu116 counterpart. So I deleted all of those too.
> >>>>> Unfortunately, the absence of one or more of those symlinks causes Xorg 
> >>>>> to fail to start. I've reinstated all the links
> >>>>> except scrubber and I now have a system that works as it did until I 
> >>>>> tried to run a kernel that includes the bad commit
> >>>>> I identified in my bisection. That includes offloading video decoding 
> >>>>> to the NVidia card, so what ever I read that said
> >>>>> the scrubber firmware was needed seems to have been wrong. I get a new 
> >>>>> message that (nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fb: VPR
> >>>>> locked, but no scrubber binary!), but, hey, we can't have everything.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you still want to get to the bottom of this, let me know what you 
> >>>>> need me to provide and I'll do my best. I suspect
> >>>>> you might want to because there will a n awful lot of Ubuntu-based 
> >>>>> systems out there with that scrubber.bin symlink in
> >>>>> place. On the other hand,m it could but quite a while before ubuntu are 
> >>>>> deploying 6.2 or later kernels.
> >>>> The symlinks are correct - whole groups of GPUs share the same FW, and
> >>>> we use symlinks in linux-firmware to represent this.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't really have any ideas how/why this patch causes issues with
> >>>> shutdown - it's a path that only gets executed during initialisation.
> >>>> Can you try and capture the kernel log during shutdown ("dmesg -w"
> >>>> over ssh? netconsole?), and see if there's any relevant messages
> >>>> providing a hint at what's going on?  Alternatively, you could try
> >>>> unloading the module (you will have to stop X/wayland/gdm/etc/etc
> >>>> first) and seeing if that hangs too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for the delay - I've been learning about netconsole and netcat. 
> >>> However, I had no success with ssh and netconsole
> >>> produced a log with nothing unusual in it.
> >>>
> >>> Simply stopping Xorg and removing the nouveau module succeeds.
> >>>
> >>> So, I rebuilt rc6+ after a pull from linus' tree this morning and set the 
> >>> nouveau debug level to 7. I then booted to a
> >>> console before doing a reboot (with Ctl+Alt+Del). As expected the machine 
> >>> locked up just before it would ordinarily
> >>> restart. The last few lines on the console might be helpful:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  fifo: preinit running...
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  fifo: preinit completed in 4us
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  gr: preinit running...
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  gr: preinit completed in 0us
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  nvdec0: preinit running...
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  nvdec0: preinit completed in 0us
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  nvdec0: preinit running...
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  nvdec0: preinit completed in 0us
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  sec2: preinit running...
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  sec2: preinit completed in 0us
> >>> nouveau 0000:01:00:0  fb:.VPR locked, running scrubber binary
> >>>
> >>> These messages appear after the "sd 4:0:0:0 [sda] Stopping disk" I 
> >>> reported in my initial email.
> >>>
> >>> After the "running scrubber" line appears the machine is locked and I 
> >>> have to hold down the power button to recover. I
> >>> get the same outcome from running "halt -dip", "poweroff -di" and 
> >>> "shutdown -h -P now". I guess it's no surprise that
> >>> all three result in the same outcome because invocations halt, poweroff 
> >>> and reboot (without the -f argument)from a
> >>> runlevel other than 0 resukt in shutdown being run. switching to runlevel 
> >>> 0 with "telenit 0" results in the same
> >>> messages from nouveau followed by the lockup.
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if you need any additional diagnostics.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>
> >> I've done some more investigation and found that I hadn't done sufficient 
> >> amemdment the scripts run at shutdown to
> >> prevent the network being shutdown. I've now got netconsole captures for 
> >> 6.2.0-rc6+
> >> (9f266ccaa2f5228bfe67ad58a94ca4e0109b954a) and, for comparison, 6.1.9. 
> >> These two logs are attached.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chris
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <snip>
> >
> >
>

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