HI Paul,
 
My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for 
them, then either:
 
        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new 
image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and 
manually dump image using the menus (rarely)
 
Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list 
the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you 
require.
 
Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE 
joiner (EQ schools only) to add the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of 
that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is 
then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont 
like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from 
ZCC).
 
Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID 
gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s 
the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 
 
 
 
 
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hi Guys
 
Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten 
the time to "discover" all those features myself. I am nearly there, just one 
last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.  I boot 
to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option 
to get to tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. 
I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as 
it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at 
this stage I could not find.
 
On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to 
stay with Ghost for at least another year. Whilst I am sure we are just about 
there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of 
another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a 
number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know 
well.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 
 
 


>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works 
for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the 
ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its 
for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need 
for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did 
not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of 
image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs 
with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data 
consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded 
operating system instance. 

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over 
Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to 
face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine 
rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image 
identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in 
goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John




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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>

Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m 
assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.  
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to 
achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging 
bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash 
script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it 
for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black 
art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I 
lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name 
conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging 
bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at 
the end.

Jamie Clarke
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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple 
of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an 
image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, 
so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost 
does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <[email protected]> wrote:


You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 


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Michael Mollard
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows
7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





Michael Mollard
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Moreton Bay College
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>>> "Paul Bart" <[email protected]> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<[email protected]> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <[email protected]> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus [email protected] he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg 
<https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F> 
&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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