This does not happen when a host is added to the network.  This happens the 
first time a host sends a packet, which could be any time.  A host could be 
hooked up and just not sending anything for an arbitrarily long time before 
this happens.

-- Murphy

On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:36 AM, 王健 wrote:

> The followings are  NOX debug information when a host joins in. (its IP 
> address is  set to 192.168.1.16 and MAC address is c8:60:00:b9:c1:50 ).
> 00090|openflow-event|DBG:received packet-in event from 001bcd03006c (len:82)
> 00091|authenticator|DBG:Automatically authing c8:60:00:b9:c1:50 192.168.1.16.
> 00092|authenticator|DBG:Binding for host doesnt exist, using default.
> 00093|authenticator|DBG:Host auth event received.
> 00094|authenticator|DBG:authenticated added location authenticated to 
> c8:60:00:b9:c1:50.
> 00095|authenticator|DBG:Added c8:60:00:b9:c1:50 192.168.1.16 to host 
> authenticated.
> 00096|sp_routing|DBG:Broadcasting 1bcd03006c port0002:vlanffff:pcp:0 
> macc8:60:00:b9:c1:50->ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff proto0800 
> ip192.168.1.16->255.255.255.255 port3601->3600
> .....
> I think the host must report its information to NOX in some way. Then the 
> topology or host table(maintain in NOX) will update,  and if there is no 
> route calculated by routing component according to topology information, it 
> means no path existed. So no need to flood. 
> Well, maybe i make a misunderstanding in some places, please help me.
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
>                  Wang JIan
>                                                                               
>                                                                               
>                  2012-7-24
>  
> 
> 
> At 2012-07-24 13:49:12,"Murphy McCauley" <[email protected]> wrote:
> (Hah, looks like maybe my mobile had a misfire there.)
> 
> I'm not sure what information you think the host is sending when it joins, 
> but... a host is not required to send anything.  It may send stuff.  Hosts 
> often do.  But there's no host-joining-a-network protocol or anything.
> 
> NOX learns about a host's presence whenever that host sends *anything*.  But 
> if a host is quiet, NOX will never learn about it.  Thus, it can easily be 
> the case that a host is on the network and NOX has no idea.  Thus, if someone 
> wants to send to that host... NOX has no idea where it should be sending it.  
> The two main options at this point would be: A) Drop (because you don't know 
> where the destination is, or even if it exists at all), or B) Flood (which, 
> if the destination exists, will definitely get the packet there).
> 
> -- Murphy
> 
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 PM, 王健 wrote:
> 
>> But a host reports its own information when joins in the network, which I 
>> observe according to NOX debug information. Does the topology will be 
>> updated? If not, how does it update? Thank you very much.
>> 
>> 在 2012-07-24 10:23:39,"Murphy McCauley" <[email protected]> 写道:
>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:19 PM, 王健 wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank Murphy and Kyriakos for your patient reply, i am sorry that maybe i 
>>> don't express my meaning clearly. When a host joins in the network, it 
>>> receives the peridictly LLPP packet and reply its own information such as 
>>> IP, MAC, access point to the NOX. Then the NOX update the topology 
>>> immediately when it receives the host join in event, isn't it? If the 
>>> toology is update immediately, then there is a quetion I can't think 
>>> clealy. If host A sends an ICMP request to host B, the 
>>> path_calculation_module says there is no route, it means there is no path 
>>> between A and B, isn't it? If so, I think there is no need to broadcast. 
>>> This confuses me a lot. I think maybe I was wrong somewhere, can you help 
>>> me?
>> 
>> I think you're saying that you expect the hosts to be receiving the LLDP 
>> from the switch and then responding.  This isn't the case.  The hosts are 
>> not expected to participate in the LLDP conversation -- it is strictly 
>> between switches.
>> 
>> 
>> -- Murphy
>> 
>> 
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