>>I thought I made it clear I was speaking from my position as a piper. My other qualifications are totally irrelevant in this context!
No, they certainly aren't when you disingenuously presenting yourself as lacking the sophistication that you obviously have. >>May I ask about your musical background?? No, in this context you may NOT. Because that kind of putdown - which basically amounts to "I am a much better piper than you are", which I will of course admit instantly -- is a kind of "get out of gaol free" card that enables you to avoid any kind of disputing of your arguments. It is far too reminiscent of the standard GHB reply "So how fast is your crunluath then?" or "How many gold medals have YOU won?" Cheers, Paul Gretton _______________________________________________________________________ From: Anthony Robb [mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com] Sent: 14 April 2009 23:13 To: Paul Gretton Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [NSP] Re: Billy Pigg Hello Paul Thank you for that considered contribution. I thought I made it clear I was speaking from my position as a piper. My other qualifications are totally irrelevant in this context! May I ask about your musical background?? Anthony --- On Tue, 14/4/09, Paul Gretton <i...@gretton-willems.com> wrote: From: Paul Gretton <i...@gretton-willems.com> Subject: [NSP] Re: Billy Pigg To: "'Anthony Robb'" <anth...@robbpipes.com> Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM >>>The important thing to bear in mind is that ordinary folk like me just >>>know what we like. GROAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This "I'm just an ordinary bloke, a man of the people with simple tastes" stuff is so unutterably tedious!!!!!!!! I thought you were a school headmaster with a degree in a hard science? Or would you prefer us to believe that you are an illiterate sheep-xxxxxxx from up a hillside somewhere north of Wooler?? Cheers, Paul Gretton -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Robb [mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com] Sent: 14 April 2009 21:44 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu; what.me Subject: [NSP] Re: Billy Pigg Hello Adrian Thanks for that. I'm new to this debate and find it all fascinating. I'm obviously one of the damned because I find choyting expressive and beautiful in the right place. The thought of "moving on" from Billy Pigg to Tom Clough is as strange to me as "moving on" from York to Durham. They are both wonderful beautiful places and neither can really claim superiority. I can understand moving from one to the other but not "moving on" from one to the other. The important thing to bear in mind is that ordinary folk like me just know what we like. That can be nice bouncy dance tunes tunes played "out of context??!!" for sheer enjoyment in each other's homes or other ways of getting some some personal expression that goes beyond the rules laid down by one of the most unique and talented dynasties to stand outside the everyday tradition of this music. I feel priveleged to have had the music experiences I've had. I was taught by ear by someone who thought Tom Clough was king and who was himself taught by ear by someone who was taught by Tom Clough. The interesting thing is, they both had an openess of mind that allowed for deviation from the received teaching. The question is, do we move on from here or go back to a strict obeyance of rules that only the extremely gifted can live by? As aye Anthony --- On Tue, 14/4/09, what.me <what...@ntlworld.com> wrote: From: what.me <what...@ntlworld.com> Subject: [NSP] Billy Pigg To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 7:03 PM Hello all, Billy Pigg did choyt. When I was learning the nsp is the late 1970's / early1980's there were not too many players which I liked the playing of. I plumped for Billy Pigg because he was marketed as being a legend; although Tom Clough was The Prince of Pipers, there was not enough of him to listen to. The other players seemed to have no gusto in their playing. My method of playing has changed. I use to choyte, grace a lot and use vibrato. The first has vanished altogether, I use gracing sparingly as with vibrato. Although Billy was my mainstay to piping, I've moved on to Clough, although his timing was not that accurate, his detatched fingering was the tightest I'd heard early in the beginning. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
