Erratum: line 4 in the tune I just sent should end dgf d2 not dGb c2 - sorry!
So try again - X:1 T:Where hast thou been all the night? M:6/8 R: Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2:| e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2 e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|dcB dcB|Ggf d2 e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| ________________________________________ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, John [j.gibb...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: 04 November 2010 11:57 To: 'NSP group' Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune hunt: OT but I hope interesting! Dear All, Here's a collage of the Reavely and Crawhall versions of 'Where have you been?', which we were discussing, with 5 strains - using Reavely's first 3 strains and continuing using patterns from Crawhall's 4th and 5th, which were inconsistent with Reavely as they stand. A more experienced editor & composer might do better? It doesn't want to go much faster than 'Noble Squire Dacre' - think the words 'Randal my son?' in bar 2 of each strain Strain 5 works if you play the d's short. I would probably play strain 1 over again at the end. The tune certainly needs to be played more widely. John X:1 T:Where hast thou been all the night? M:6/8 R: Air K:G e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2:| e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|dgf dgB|dgf d2 e|dgf dgB|dgB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dgB c2 e|dB/c/d/B/ gB/c/d/B/|dB/c/d/B/ c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|dgf d2 e|d/c/B/c/d/e/ d/c/B/c/d/B/|d/c/B/c/d/B/ c2 e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|dcB dcB|Ggf d2 e|dcB dcB|dGB c2e|d/c/B/A/B/G/ B>cd|dgf d2|| ________________________________________ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gretton [i...@gretton-willems.com] Sent: 02 November 2010 10:25 To: 'Matt Seattle' Cc: 'NSP group' Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune hunt: OT but I hope interesting! I haven't really been following this discussion but perhaps it's worth pointing out that "parody" can have the formal musical sense of incorporating music from one genre into another, or basing a piece on another piece. Used in that way, it doesn’t have to imply guying or spoofing the original. The clearest examples are the polyphonic parody masses of the Renaissance that are based on folk songs. The most popular tune was "L'homme armé", which generated literally dozens of glorious parody masses in the 15th and 16th centuries by major composers like Dufay, Ockeghem and Josquin. Cheers, Paul Gretton -----Original Message----- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Seattle Sent: 02 November 2010 10:58 To: Gibbons, John Cc: Richard York; NSP group Subject: [NSP] Re: Tune hunt: OT but I hope interesting! I see why you prefer the 3-strain Reavely version as more consistent, but the Crawhall strain 4 is worth having - perhaps better if tweaked to fit the others from Reavely. I should have another look in that case, thanks. I have been thinking about this, and Lord Randal, since the discussion started. The tune is obviously a good fit to the metre, but if this is right, then the tune is to be played andante, not as a jig. Yes, I think that thee 6/8 variation sets (in Peacock et al) are not (dance) jigs, though often based on them - e.g. Felton Lonnen, which exists in both forms. The idea of Billy Boy as a parody of Lord Randal had never occurred to me, but the worried mum and the emphasis on the girlfriend's culinary abilities are common to both. I think it was Bronson's (Trad Tunes of the Child Ballads) book which alerted me to this. I had it on loan so I can't check it now, but IIRC he said that the two songs (or versions of them) were of comparable age, and I got more the feeling of 'counterpart' than 'parody' from what he was saying. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
