But you have to admit, there is a very strong relationship. Don't worry about the anomolies. They aren't important.
Bear in mind also that wages are not a perfect analogue for player quality, which is the real determinant of league position. A great players can join a club on 30k a week but he is really worth 50k a week. This is especially true for youth players where value and negotiating position are weaker. I know it's a hard thing to trust, but stats can genuinely identify the amount of varaibility that is explained by a factor. You might not agree that managers account for about 3% of final position but you're surely changing your mind about the importance of a manager? On 20 December 2011 16:14, Paul Crowe <pcr...@contechengineering.com> wrote: > Dear Steve,**** > > ** ** > > I found these figures on the web from Deloitte’s annual football report > for season 2009 to 2010, the season before your figures. Results as follows: > **** > > ** ** > > Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference > Burnley......... .18..............19................1 > Fulham................12...............11.......... ......-1 > Stoke................11...............14.......... ......3 > Spurs..................5................7......... .......2 > Man Utd..............2................3............... ..1 > Wolves..............18...............15........... .....3 > Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1 > Arsenal...............3.................5......... .......2 > Everton..............8.................8.......... ......0 > Wigan...............16...............15........... .....-1 > Hull City..........19...............16............ ....-3 > Bolton...............13...............14.......... ......1 > Chelsea..............1.................1.......... .....0 > Birmingham.........17...............9............ ..8 > Man City.............5.................2.............. .-3 > Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2 > Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2 > Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3 > Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3 > West Ham..........17................10...............-7**** > > Compared to your results for last season 2010 to 2011:**** > > ** ** > > Team..........League Rank...Wage Rank...Difference > West Brom..........11..............19................8 > Fulham................8...............11.......... ......3 > Stoke................13...............15.......... ......2 > Spurs..................5................7......... .......2 > Man Utd..............1................3............... ..2 > Wolves..............17...............18........... .....1 > Blackpool...........19...............20........... .....1 > Arsenal...............4.................5......... .......1 > Everton..............7.................8.......... ......1 > Wigan...............16...............16........... .....0 > Newcastle..........12...............12............ ....0 > Bolton...............14...............14.......... ......0 > Chelsea..............2.................1.......... .....-1 > Birmingham.........18...............17............ ..-1 > Man City.............3.................2.............. .-1 > Liverpool.............6.................4......... ......-2 > Sunderland.........10................8............ ....-2 > Aston villa...........9.................6...............-3 > Blackburn...........15...............12........... ....-3 > West Ham..........20................8...............-12**** > > ** ** > > Ok, pretty similar results. The 2 x anomaly’s for 2009 to 2010 being > Birmingham and West Ham. Interesting that West Ham went up 2 x places in > terms of the wage table for last season compared to the previous year but > ended up finishing bottom and were relegated.**** > > Pity Deloitte do not publish their reports. Anybody have the figures for > the season 2008 to 2009? **** > > Still not convinced Manager’s have no effect whatsoever and that 90% of > team performance is directly attributed to wage bill spend. **** > > Regards**** > > Paul.**** > > **** > > ** ** > > Paul Crowe**** > > Sales Manager - Asia Pacific**** > > **** > > ConTech (Sydney Office)**** > > **** > > PO Box 3517**** > > Rhodes Waterside**** > > Rhodes NSW 2138**** > > Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542**** > > Mob: 0406009562**** > > Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com**** > > Website: www.contechengineering.com**** > > ** ** > > *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 December 2011 2:36 PM > *To:* nswolves > *Subject:* [NSWolves] Fwd: Prem league wages**** > > ** ** > > Here's the wages data that Paul Crowe asked for, It's more or less the > same as the data I have already shared.**** > > **** > > West Ham is an outlier and linear regression is not robust so you get a > stronger r-squared when you take it out. God knows what happened to them > last season**** > > -- > Boo! Thick Mick Out.**** > > -- > Boo! Thick Mick Out. > -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
