On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 22:14, Szabolcs Szakacsits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Shirish,

Hi Szabolcs,

> On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, shirish wrote:
>
>>       Have a look at ntfs-3g wikipedia page 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS-3G
>>
>> few things/features which it talks about are
>>
>> a. NTFS-3G does not yet support full NTFS journaling
>
> True. Journaling is not reliable, slow and obsolete. Snapshotting will
> solve all of these ;-)

Could you give a bit more insight about snapshotting.

Please correct me if I am wrong . From what I understand of snapshots
its basically making a checkpoint at a specific point in time. In case
if any transaction or anything goes wrong after that it sorts of comes
back to the time when the snapshot was done.

The down-side of having snapshots are :-

a. It takes quite a bit of space to make snapshots
b. One has to remember to take snapshots from time to time to have it
current. (Of course one can have some sort of cron job or something so
it happens)

>> b. NTFS-3G is not yet optimized for performance
>
> This is fairly complex. Performance optimizations are intensively ongoing
> on several fronts and technical areas for over two years: NTFS-3G, FUSE
> library, FUSE kernel module, kernel VFS, inefficent applications. The codes
> are being gradually released as they matured to production quality.
>
> Today the choices are
>
> 1. Stable NTFS-3G: it is the slowest but usually it's still faster than
>   e.g. XFS in general use and the streaming performance can often saturate
>   the disk bandwidth (50-100+ MB/sec).

cool.

> 2. Advanced NTFS-3G Preview: better performance
>   http://pagesperso-orange.fr/b.andre/security.html

Way over my head stuff

> 3. Development NTFS-3G: it can outperform stable kernel filesystems,
>   e.g. in compilebench, sustained write (902 MB/sec).

WOW

> 4. Optimized NTFS-3G for Embedded devices: it is 10-20 times faster
>   than Stable NTFS-3G.

Cool.

>> c. The focus of the development is still reliability
>
> The top priority of the development will be always reliability and safe
> interoperability. Though we don't have much to do here at the moment, since
> we are not aware of any issues anymore.

I do have an issue and will give more details in the bug-report a
little later. (or perhaps tomorrow with some more testing of the same)

> The current focus is reviewing, intensively testing and merging features
> from the Advanced NTFS-3G branch to the Stable branch, keep working on the
> performance improvements and on features in which most NTFS-3G users are
> interested and need.

that's cool.

>> and implementing the missing POSIX functionality.
>
> Well, to be honest, I don't know what we miss anymore. The Advanced NTFS-3G
> driver passes the PJD POSIX File System Test Suite without any fault:
> http://ntfs-3g.org/pjd-fstest.html

bookmarking it for referencing later, perhaps change that bit on
wikipedia giving reference of the page.

>> ntfs-3g itself doesn't have any documentation
>
> 'man ntfs-3g' and http://ntfs-3g.org

Right, although what I mean is if you could have something in
/usr/share/doc as right now the only thing you have is a README in
there .

If there could be a file which gives problem submission instructions
or for testing or something like that it would be nice . Just giving a
reference of ntfs-3g site is ok but it would be better to have
something more.

Just the bit as given at http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#bugreport
in a separate file would be nice.

> Regards,
>            Szaka

Looking forward to your comments on the same.
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