On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 09:55:08PM +0200, Jean-Pierre André wrote:

[snip]

> >Thanks. I applied the patch and it works as expected. Regarding writing
> >the 4K bytes before calling the truncate, I'm guess this is the cluster
> >size correct? If I formatted with cluster size 65K, then I will have to
> >write 65K before truncating.
> 
> No, the aim is to force the data to not be stored
> in the base MFT record, by writing more than a
> MFT record can hold. A MFT record generally is
> a full sector, with a minimum of 1K, so writing 4K
> is enough for 512-byte and 4K-byte sector disks.
> 

OK, understood.

> 
> Are you writing to the allocated space sequentially
> or at random locations ? With NTFS, if you want to
> write to an allocated space at a random place, you
> will force the unwritten space up to the write location
> to be zeroed. Example :
> 1) Allocate 4GB : the file size is still zero, and reading
> at any location from the file returns zeroes.
> 2) Write 4K from the beginning : the file size is now
> 4K and 4K bytes can be read.
> 3) Write a few bytes near the end : nearly 4GB has
> to be zeroed.
> (Note : I have not checked how Windows behaves in
> such conditions)
> 
> For writing to random locations, a sparse file is
> probably better.

Thanks for the info. That's good to know. Currently, the application
just writes sequentially to the file.

I also just noticed that if the filesystem is mounted and I run the
ntfsfallocate test program (with --force), the file is successfully
alloced. However, the free space is not updated. The fs needs to be
unmounted/mounted again. Is there a way around this that you are aware
of?

> 
> Regards
> 
> Jean-Pierre
> 
> 

Thanks again for your help.
Amit


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