Hi Denis, > The floats where jumping around, appearing in a different order than > in the source file
Tables and figures can appear in different orders than each other, and a top float could appear at the top of the page that it is mentioned, but if you ever see Figure 2 before Figure 1 or a float appearing before it is placed in the source (with the exception of the top issue), then you've probably found a bug. > some positioning keys had not the intended effect (e.g. top) I've had mixed results with some of the positioning keys too, but "top" should generally work okay. If you're using columns, weird stuff can sometimes happen with top/bottom floats, but you should still be able to make them work. You can also try adding \setupfloat[ntop=100] at the start of you're document. I've had that fix an otherwise- unexplainable bug once. > I know, TeX's float positioning algorithm should be rather reliable > and stable Not as much as you would expect. The TeX page breaking algorithm is greedy, single-pass, and dependant on every page prior, so you can get some pretty chaotic results in pathological situations. "Typical" documents don't usually have any issues, but you can (even accidentally) make a document that gives some really weird results. > Anyway, I'd like to learn more about the whole float issue. Is there anything > particular I could read to learn more about the whole thing? The only float documentation for ConTeXt that I'm aware of is a short section in It's in the Details https://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/details.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A39%2C%22gen%22%3A0%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22Fit%22%7D%5D and another short section in the old Reference Manual http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf#aut%3A957 There's also the Wiki page https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Floating_Objects and the source code https://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/mkxl/strc-flt.mklx I haven't been able to find anything that really goes into the details though. (If there's something that I'm missing here, please let me know! I've been looking for awhile now) > Maybe I'm missing out on something fundamental... At the TeX level, floats are known as \insert's/insertions. The end of Chapter 15 in The TeXbook goes into detail here. TeX By Topic also has a good description in Chapter 29 https://texdoc.org/serve/texbytopic/0#chapter.29 Then there's also Low Level TeX which documents the changes in LMTX https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/lowlevel-inserts.pdf Inserts are (in my opinion) the most complicated part of TeX. Even at an engine level, they aren't that well documented. When writing the footnote code for lua-widow-control, I had to read through "TeX the program" since some of the details weren't documented anywhere else. And as Peter mentioned, if you post a specific example someone will probably come along and help. -- Max ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________
