Hi Emmanuel,
Thank you so much for the new setup for writing Japanese: I tested with both
files, and noticed that with the new version the output looks great.
I have a question about the code in the \directlua{} part of your setup: why,
for instance, the
paperSize = « B5"
is defined « by hand » there, instead of being retrieved from the command
\setuppapersize[B5]
issued by the user?
Actually I am using your setup for learning Japanese, and at my beginner’s
level I do separate words I am learning with spaces. While with the previous
version of your setup the lines were breaking womewhat strangely, but now the
spaces between words in the output are as I intended them to be (I should also
Thank Wolfgang Schuster for his insight with the \script[nihongo], and indeed
Hans for fixing so quickly the slightest bug).
It is really a great pleasure to be in this community where help comes from
everyone and features are given on demand !
Best regards: Otared
> On 10 Mar 2024, at 17:43, Emanuel Han via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I added
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese_Japanese_and_Korean#Meeting_the_JIS_X_4051_Requirements_for_Japanese_Text_Layout
> with attached working example code and to-do list.
>
> Thanks for any contributions!
>
> The working example code is still a work in progress. Its text layout output
> meets already some of the requirements (see comments in the code). Among the
> ones to still be implemented are:
>
> • solid setting (no extra spacing between characters)
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_8 if no requirement for line-adjustment
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#term.line-adjustment
> • aligning of the lines to the Kihon-hanmen (optimizing the code below
> in this regard)
> • positioning and realm of headings
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_9 https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_15
> et al, and https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_4
> • positioning of yokugo-ruby https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_3_24
> • inline cutting note (warichu) https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_4_1
> • emphasis with sesame dot or bullet
> • itemization https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_6
> • indenting of quotation paragraphs
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_7
> • tab setting https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_6_1
> • furiwake https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_2
> • jidori https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_4
> • math https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_6 and
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_62
> • tategaki (writing vertically)
> Best regards
>
> Emanuel
> On März 2 2024, at 7:00 pm, Wolfgang Schuster
> <wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Emanuel Han schrieb am 01.03.2024 um 16:23:
>
> Dear Wolfgang,
>
> thank you for your valuable remarks. I integrated them, see corrected
> attached example.
>
> Yes, correct layout examples exist. They're all showing vertical writing, but
> the rules and principles are exactly the same for horizontal writing.
>
> • position of the headers and footers:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_30
>
> See my attached gongitsune.tex example how you can squeeze text in a very
> narrow header/footer.
>
> • aligning lines to the text box: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_3
>
> You can use the lines key for \setuplayout to let ConTeXt calculate the
> necessary value for the text height.
>
> • protrusion of ruby: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig_ad1_6
>
> You're getting this for free because ruby text doesn't take up vertical
> space, in case vertical text is working it would now stick into the margins
> as expected.
>
> \starttext
> \ruledhbox{a \ruby{x}{y} b}
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> In my previous mail, I wrote wrong amounts of lines. They should be 46 lines
> on one page, while the actual example doesn't show the 46th line.
>
> It would be important to identify the reason why only 24 characters are used
> to create a line when 25 could be used. Then we can develop a method to turn
> that mechanism off or circumvent it.
> Quotation from https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq:
> In principle, when composing a line with ideographic (cl-19), hiragana
> (cl-15) and katakana (cl-16) characters, no extra spacing appears between
> their character frame. This is called solid setting (see Figure 5).
>
> 1. ConTeXt has a mechanism to typeset Japanese texts.
>
> 2. There are flaws in the output it produces but this nothing which can't be
> fixed.
>
> 3. To fix the problems someone has to be passionate to fix them and we're
> willing to help here.
>
> As you can see in my second example file japanese.tex there is a font feature
> to create half sized parentheses etc. which isn't supported yet by ConTeXt's
> mechanism for japanese and in case your willing to improve it this should be
> taken care of as well.
>
> Wolfgang
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