Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >>Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>It doesn't need to automatically determine the subsection boundaries
> >>>automatically (although this would be great), so I can write something
> >>>like this:
> >>>
> >>>\startmaterialforonepage
> >>>\subsection{split only if too long for one page}
> >>>\dorecurse{10}{whatever comes here \dots }
> >>>\stopmaterialforonepage
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Do you want something like this?
> >>
> >>   \long\def\startmaterialforonepage#1\stopmaterialforonepage%
> >>     {\setbox0\vbox{#1}\ifdim\ht0<\textheight \page\fi #1}
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thak you, Taco. Yes, this is almost exactly what I wanted to do,
> >except that I would substitute
> >    \ifdim\ht0<\textheight
> >with
> >    \ifdim\ht0<\theremainingpageheight
> >
> >How/where can I get \theremainingpageheight? I saw some strange
> >"keywords" like \pagegoal, \pagetotal spread through the source, ...
> >but I have no clue what they are for and if they have anyting to do
> >with what I'm looking for.
> >
> >
> that's always tricky, because it's not really possible to determine the
> rest of the available space without entering the output routing, which
> then spoils spacing
>
> (there is \testpage[n] with n being a minimal number of lines, so,
> \testpage[10] will move to the next page if there are less than 10 lines)

Thank you, Hans. I have to refresh my knowledge about the syntax and
I'll try it out. Making
    \setbox0\vbox{#1}
and then executing the \testpage with "ceil(ht0 / lineheight)" should
then work OK, I hope.


I understand the problem of the approach that I asked for: as soon as
someone enters a \vfill(l) or \vss, it's approximately impossible to
determine where the text on the page ends. But in the first
approximation I would be satisfied with the empty space that would
remain if the document ended at that specific place.

That information is also very valuable when trying to put pictures on
slides, where picture has to be as big as possible, but still has to
fit on the space under the title (I tuned them manually, which was OK
for just a couple of slides).

Thank you,
    Mojca
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