Hi Matthias,

On Thu, Jul  2, 2026 at 12:19 (-0400), Matthias Weber wrote:

> Thanks for these examples.

> How does one make the exponents continue to shrink (like in \cfrac) , and
> the \udots appear slightly higher so that they are above the \sqrt?

> \starttext
> \permanent\protected\def\pow#1#2{\mathord{#1}^{#2}}  
> \im{\pow{\pow{\pow{\pow{\sqrt2}{\sqrt2}}{\sqrt2}}{\sqrt2}}{\udots}=2}
> \stoptext

Someone will probably give you a better answer.  But, for now, here are the
dots one level higher:

\starttext
\permanent\protected\def\pow#1#2{\mathord{#1}^{#2}}
\im{\pow{\pow{\pow{\pow{\sqrt2}{\sqrt2}}{\sqrt2}}{\sqrt2}}{{}^{\udots}}=2}
\stoptext

I don't immediately know how to make them continue to shrink (in any
reasonable way, anyway).

                                        Jim

>> On Jul 2, 2026, at 2:51 AM, Hans Hagen via ntg-context <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:

>> On 7/2/2026 3:38 AM, Jim Diamond via ntg-context wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> plain TeX typesets the expression
>>>         ${x^n}^3$
>>> so that the baseline of the 3 is higher than the baseline of the n.
>>> ConTeXt typesets the expression
>>>         \im{{x^n}^3}
>>> so that the baseline of the 3 is the same as the baseline of the n.
>>> Is this intentional?

>> Of course.

>> \setupbodyfont[pagella]

>> \starttext

>>     \permanent\protected\def\pow#1#2{\mathord{#1}^{2}}

>>     \im{x^n^3}

>>     \im{(x^n)^3}

>>     \im{{\green 21} {\blue +} {\red x^n}^{\darkgray 3}}

>>     \im{\mathord{x^n}^{\red 3}}

>>     \im{\pow{x^n}{3}}

>>     \im{\pow{x+n}{3}}

>> \stoptext

>> In Context math we want to focus on proper rendering without any need for 
>> manual intervention (these tiny used enforced spaces) that can mess up the 
>> result. We also want to focus on meaning and permits to set properties 
>> without interferance. For that reason there are some features that we enable 
>> by default, like {} being just grouping characters and not atom creators. In 
>> a similar fashion we have primes as native feature and multiscripts and 
>> such. Also, a lot is about classes.

>> Out big test cases are Mikaels math books and lecture notes and so far we 
>> have not seen any negative side effects.

>> \setupbodyfont[pagella]

>> \starttext

>>     \permanent\protected\def\pow#1#2{\mathord{#1}^{2}} % think \frac

>>     \im{x^n^3}

>>     \im{(x^n)^3}

>>     \im{{\green 21} {\blue +} {\red x^n}^{\darkgray 3}}

>>     \im{\mathord{x^n}^{\red 3}}

>>     \im{\pow{x^n}{3}}

>>     \im{\pow{x+n}{3}}

>> \stoptext

>> Maybe this should be stressed a bit (which you will now do on the wiki.)

>>> (And I do know that if I use \im{x^{n^3}} the 3 is higher than the n, but I
>>> was wondering about \im{{x^n}^3}.)

>> In general for inline math these super-super scripts sit somewhat low so 
>> they are not that disctinctive. In the perspective of hot-topic 
>> hyper-accessibility one can argue for (x^n) so make the super-super script 
>> stand out more.

>> We can have a vote on \pow I guess but I leave that to Mikael and Aditya and 
>> you as math {\red pow}er users.

>> Hans


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