Hans, Thanks for your suggestion, but in the meantime I worked hard to find a solution and now do a framedtext within a framed text. Calculating the width and height of the inner framedtext from the surrounding one's offset and the margin wanted. After puzzling out that "location=middle" can put the inner framedtext centered it seems to work for me. But it is a bit more work than the solution you are showing me here; surely I will try your suggestion because it seems so much simpler. I must admit I would not have found out on my own about the two uses of \hsize.
As for your question: "can you put that in the wiki?" I have not the faintest idea of how to put things in a "wiki". Not even do I understand the phenomenon "wiki". yours sincerely, dr. H. van der Meer On Feb 28, 2006, at 2:42, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hans van der Meer wrote: >> A nasty problem arises when I try to enclose columns into a >> framedtext and at the same time want to typeset it narrower inside >> the frame. >> >> 1. framedtext: columns will not typeset, simplecolumns does >> 2. narrower: columns honors narrowing, simplecolumns does not. >> >> Now I am caught between two impossibilities. >> Is it an option that simplecolumns will also be honoring >> startnarrower..stopnarrower? >> Is there another, simple solution? >> > \framed[width=\hsize]\bgroup > \startnarrower > \setlocalhsize \hsize\localhsize > \startsimplecolumns > \input tufte \par > \input tufte\par > \stopsimplecolumns > \stopnarrower > \egroup > > - when no width is given, framed will to to find the best fit > - you set the hsize according to the narrower before the columns > > can you put that in the wiki? > > Hans > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context