On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:45 +0200 "Mojca Miklavec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Hans Hagen wrote: > > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > >> On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote: > > >>> btw, > > >>> > > >>> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump > > >>> > > >>> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain > > >>> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to > > >>> you > > >> pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for > > >> plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that > > >> one might need some additional files.) > > > > > > pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump > > > > > > probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant > > > (patterns to start with -) > > > > There is no doubt that plain is useful. I always create the plain > > Knuth format for luatex and pdftex by hand, and while it would be nice > > to have it done automatically, it is not that much work, and all real > > input files are there (.ini's are a commandline convenience). > > (In case of XeTeX, it's slightly more that a single line to be typed :) > > > If I understood correctly, plain xetex really needs something extra? > > If that is so, than perhaps that file should be added. Mojca, what's > > up with that? > > xetex.ini looks like that: > > \catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \catcode`\#=6 \catcode`\^=7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > \input unicode-letters > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@nt=\font > ... some stuff here > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@nt\preloaded=#1^^A{\endgroup}} > > \input etex.src > > % restore the \font command and undefine other stuff > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@nt > ... some more stuff here > > \dump > \endinput > > So one additionally needs: > - (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself > - unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I > just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in > enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed) this is not possible with the 0.997dev version because it presets charclasses (a new feature in XeTeX) for a few CJK characters > - etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?) this is also used for the pdftex format in w32tex > - tex-text.tec (which was missing until now but needs to be added anyway) > - hmmm ... no idea about what is needed for hyphenation (but I guess > that patterns from ConTeXt could be used as well) > > I will test once I have the rest, but it would be really handy to have > the three plain formats (pdfTeX, XeTeX and mpost available; plus > luatex if needed). > > > On dev-context, I have already proposed the removal of a number of > > binaries, so I can make that request :-) > > ;) 3-times hurray for Taco :) > > Mojca Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________