On 13-4-2010 8:07, Khaled Hosny wrote:
Apparently not, again for some reason I'd always the feeling that they
are not interested in feedback (I also usually try to provide fixes with
my "bug" reports, but I can't really do here).
If you'd met them in person you'd probably written your mails
differently. They are quite open, very active in the tex community,
spending a lot of time on tex things and deserve a bit more respect.
(Actually this is one of the things I dislike about mailing, bloging,
etc. .. criticizing people without knowing who one's dealing with and
what one's intentions are.)
The project started already quite some years ago and i dare to say the
lm and gyre project the community would be in troubles. Also, these
projects are among the few (user group sponsored projects) that actually
had quite some outcome. We have had those type one fonts in different
encodings for ages and in was a pain to support them consistently esp
when mixing languages. This project could only succees because it was
done by a few people the way it was done. I kno wthe community well
enough by now to also know that a larger group would have failed
(endless discussions for instance) and even this way it already had to
cross some political tex font boundaries. In the tex community the most
succesful projects are those done by small groups consisting of people
who stay around long.
The fonts that were used as starting point were part of tex live for
many years and for some it's even unknown where the additional glyphs
came from. Replacing the old fonts with new ones (type 1 and later otf)
is done under tight control as it may not harm distributions and current
workflows.
Most of this info can be found in publications (and presentations) on
the project. Ok, if one's not a member of a user group, one will not
notice but that not the teams fault. The stages are quite clear: initial
merge, cleanup (which can lead to removal), math, improve. We're
currently between the second and third stage. Those sponsoring the
project are quite convinced that the team can and will deliver given
time. Criticism is ok, as is passing info and patches to the team, but
one has to see things in (tex) perspective.
Hans
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